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Créé par: ReelBigFan
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2022
Publié: 5 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trading players with similar stats and advanced stats to new teams for a change of scenery. Trying not to do more than 1 year age difference or 1 year difference on the Contacts.
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Provorov, Ivan (1 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Evening out the salary, other than that these two guys have been nearly identical in multiple cats and advanced cats. I know people obviously value one more than the other, but just basing this off the facts
2.
DET
  1. Konecny, Travis
Détails additionnels:
Similar players, similar contract, contract length makes me think TK gains more value in this deal but that’s not really what this post is about
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $69 035 012 $295 000 $2 387 500 $13 464 988 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 3
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
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UFA - 4
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2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 675 000 $4 675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
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UFA - 2
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1

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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 55
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Bertuzzi >> Konecny
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 58
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Bertuzzi >> Konecny


Just going on paper here.. stats, advanced stats, contract, etc… pretty close everywhere
5 juin 2022 à 16 h 3
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Just going on paper here.. stats, advanced stats, contract, etc… pretty close everywhere


Bertuzzi had 35 goals over the last 77
Konecny had 16 in 79
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5 juin 2022 à 16 h 27
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Bertuzzi had 35 goals over the last 77
Konecny had 16 in 79

Goals are not the only stat in hockey. They have a career.68 and .67 ppg average
5 juin 2022 à 16 h 38
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Goals are not the only stat in hockey. They have a career.68 and .67 ppg average


Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20
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5 juin 2022 à 16 h 46
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Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20


In that case, Flyers trade JVR for Mittlestadt JVR is a 25 goal scorer, we will even retain salary
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5 juin 2022 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20


Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?
5 juin 2022 à 17 h 39
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I think Bertuzzi is trending up where Konecny has tended slightly down or already peaked. I'm not opposed to a Konecny trade but it would likely be got futures like two seconds or something.
5 juin 2022 à 17 h 42
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Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?


How does that apply? Konecny had 52 points. I don't think anyone in the NHL has every put up 100pts with only 12 goals.

Detroit declines.
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5 juin 2022 à 18 h 6
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Konecny is a C, but his 2-way game kinda fell apart this year. It's difficult to compare TK to Bert, as Cs have more responsibility on the D side than wingers do (unless you are playing the left wing lock). If TK picks up the 2-way game again next year, his value would be higher than Bert. Bert plays a gritter game though (Philly style) that is well built for the playoffs, but PHI is nowhere near the playoffs.

I don't think either team would entertain this type of trade.
5 juin 2022 à 18 h 54
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In that case, Flyers trade JVR for Mittlestadt JVR is a 25 goal scorer, we will even retain salary


Retain salary the majority of Sabre fans would take it lol
5 juin 2022 à 18 h 55
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Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?


50 point player. If the rest of his line is putting up 88 goals his 12 is even worse looking
6 juin 2022 à 21 h 23
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Can Bertuzzi even play in Canada?
 
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