Rookie LHD in da house

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Créé par: bettercallpaul

Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit

Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2022

Publié: 3 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5zw7nzAgAk watch this and tell me Edvinsson is not a 1st pairing D man/calder trophy candidate/conn smyth winner.... Ok maybe im getting ahead of myself, but I can hope right?! Plus Johansson on that side. And Petterson seems like a great partner for Hronek. with that, you gots 3 Swedes as LHD, 4 Swedes total, and all 6 Dmen are young Europeans. Neat!

And yeah Vegas will find a way to keep Roy but I would love to see Yzerman acquire him via trade or rfa. Also I'm curious what others think Roy will get from Vegas this year? over 3.5m? their cap situation is not excellent.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Zadina, Filip	2	2 000 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell	2	900 000 $
Walman, Jake	2	1 000 000 $
Roy, Nicolas	2	2 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Hellberg, Magnus		2	800 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Roy, Nicolas	2 500 000 $	Choix de 2e ronde en 2023

Transactions

DET

Pettersson, Marcus

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)

Rachats de contrats

Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
Frans Nielsen: 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	82 500 000 $	54 843 231 $	0 $	3 857 500 $	27 656 769 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bertuzzi, Tyler 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Roy, Nicolas 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 5	Zadina, Filip 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 3
Fabbri, Robby 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Suter, Pius 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Sundqvist, Oskar 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Rasmussen, Michael 1 460 000 $1 460 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Stephens, Mitchell 900 000 $900 000 $ C UFA - 1	Erne, Adam 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edvinsson, Simon 925 000 $925 000 $ DG RFA - 4	Seider, Moritz 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 3	Hronek, Filip 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Johansson, Albert 820 000 $820 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 2	Lindström, Gustav 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1	Hellberg, Magnus 800 000 $800 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Veleno, Joseph 894 167 $894 167 $ (425 000 $$425K) C RFA - 1
Walman, Jake 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Smith, Givani 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

3 juin 2022 à 14 h 37

PredsWingsFan

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Id probably try to trade for Martinez or Dadonov and require Roy as part of the cost to move those contracts. I like the play there though

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3 juin 2022 à 14 h 45

csick

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I don’t think he should be playing top pair right away. No Dman should .

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3 juin 2022 à 14 h 48

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I'm excited about Edvinsson too but we need to see where his game is at in training camp. He's 19 years old. Roy is exactly what we need but I don't think Vegas will give him up. I know they're in cap hell but they'll try to dump Martinez and Dadonov first. They can LTIR Martinez if his eye Injury persists.

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3 juin 2022 à 14 h 50

Billy12Bob

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think he should be playing top pair right away. No Dman should .

I agree. He's never played on NHL sized ice in his career and needs to be started in GR to get used to the smaller ice and the higher pace, just like Seider was.

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3 juin 2022 à 14 h 51

csick

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

I agree. He's never played on NHL sized ice in his career and needs to be started in GR to get used to the smaller ice and the higher pace, just like Seider was.

Broberg has taken a while to develop. Just a comparable but I think Edvinsson is much better

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3 juin 2022 à 14 h 58

Billy12Bob

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Quoting: csick

Broberg has taken a while to develop. Just a comparable but I think Edvinsson is much better

Edvinsson is comparable to Seider but plays a slightly different type of game.

Nobody was screaming for Seider to be thrown in at the deep end like they are for Edvinsson. IMHO it's unrealistic to expect him to make the team out of camp without any play in GR at all, besides Albert Johansson is currently better than Edvinsson and a lot more ready for prime time.

I can see Simon coming up for injury duty and getting a look here and there but being paired with Seider on top pair straight out of camp is simply ridiculous.

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3 juin 2022 à 15 h 0

csick

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

I would play him on the 2nd line with a guy like Dillon or Schmidt playing on the first pair and a guy like Zadorov , Maata on the 3rd pair

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3 juin 2022 à 15 h 2

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: csick

Broberg has taken a while to develop. Just a comparable but I think Edvinsson is much better

Oh yeah. Edvinsson is much better than Broberg. It's not even close in my opinion.

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3 juin 2022 à 15 h 18

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think he should be playing top pair right away. No Dman should .

yeah. when was the last time detroit had a rookie defender step right in and play top line minutes, then win the calder. That would nev..... oh wait

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3 juin 2022 à 16 h 27

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Quoting: csick

I would play him on the 2nd line with a guy like Dillon or Schmidt playing on the first pair and a guy like Zadorov , Maata on the 3rd pair

Not with Hronek as his partner. Hronek needs a partner tailored to fit him , someone that can compensate for his weaknesses, Edvinsson would be the worst player they could find for that job.

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3 juin 2022 à 16 h 31

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Quoting: Hullsy09

yeah. when was the last time detroit had a rookie defender step right in and play top line minutes, then win the calder. That would nev..... oh wait

Any 19-year old? Fresh from Europe? Never having played on NHL sized ice?

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3 juin 2022 à 16 h 40

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

Any 19-year old? Fresh from Europe? Never having played on NHL sized ice?

Those filters shouldn’t matter as @csick said no dman should play top pair right away

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3 juin 2022 à 16 h 42

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Quoting: Hullsy09

Those filters shouldn’t matter as csick said no dman should play top pair right away

And who has?

3 juin 2022 à 17 h 10

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Hullsy09

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

And who has?

Literally Seider. This year. On the same team.

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3 juin 2022 à 17 h 36

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Quoting: Hullsy09

Literally Seider. This year. On the same team.

Seider had one full year in the AHL with Grand Rapids and one full year in the SHL with Rögle after being signed with the Red Wings. He didn't go straight to the NHL and a top pairing after being signed. He was a whole full year older than Edvinsson will be this fall before he played his first NHL game.

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3 juin 2022 à 17 h 40

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I'll be surprised if Edvinsson isn't in the opening night lineup. Seider had an extra year of development due to playing in the SHL during the covid season, so I don't expect it to be as smooth a transition for Edvinsson, but everything coming out of the organization insinuates they expect him to make the club out of camp.

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3 juin 2022 à 18 h 5

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Quoting: Billy12Bob

but that shouldn't matter according to what @csick listened. He said no defender should play top pairing right away.

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4 juin 2022 à 2 h 16

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Quoting: Hullsy09

but that shouldn't matter according to what csick listened. He said no defender should play top pairing right away.

And Seider did not play top pair right away, it took two years of preparation in AHL and SHL before he got that job.

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