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Bergeron retires tank for Bedard

Créé par: beantownboy17
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 1 juin 2022
Publié: 1 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Move into the 1st round then trade up with a team willing to move. The center depth in this draft is great. Then cut some fat, get some young talent into the lineup and slug through it. Resign Pasta for 8×9mil. With the recent signings, the only way this team can be competitive is with good young talent and we either need to draft it or find it in our depleted farm system. With Marchand out until at least early December, I see no reason to try and coast until he comes back and try to claw our way back up the standings. The guys who get roster looks are in under scratches, which is why the bottom of the lineup looks depleted.
And I swear if any of you say "*blank* declines" without providing a constructive alternative I'm gonna puke.
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1 juin 2022 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I would never trade a 7th OA pick for a late first and two second round picks. There would need to be a very specific reason to do that (like you absolutely hate a whole draft class)

You never know when will be the next time you have the chance to draft that high. Sens have had high picks recently during their rebuild, but before that and after their last "tanking draft" in 1996 following their expansion (picked Chris Phillips 1st OA in a weak class), they only had the 2nd OA pick in 2001 (Jason Spezza 2nd OA but it wasn't even their pick, that one was gifted by Milbury in the Yashin trade) and the 6th OA pick in 2011. It took until 2018 to have another Top-7 pick with Brady Tkachuk at 4th OA


I would say that if there is a draft class that fits your specifications, this would be it. And I think that if I'm Ottawa, I would say "no no no you're not sending us a pick in the 35ish range - you're going to send us a player that matches that" and push for JDB/#30/#64 to give up #7/#86.

But yeah, I get that it needs to be something *big* to give up that 7OA, even in a kinda meh draft.
1 juin 2022 à 11 h 54
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LA still was 4th and this team is better than that roster. Much better goaltending and D


I mean mcavoy and doughty play at similar levels. matt roy/sean walker were both solid that year. alec martinez was still there, i wouldnt say the kings were truly as bad as they were that year. they ended up moving both toffoli and carter away had zero depth behind their top 6. i mean absolutely no production. (which i fear would be the case without bergy dont forget how elite he is defensively).

Goaltending advantage clear for bruins yes. but we also havent seen a bruins team without backcheck jesus in 20 years. coaching philosophy might have to change assuming he retires of course. we dont have anyone remotely good enough for that.
1 juin 2022 à 12 h 8
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I would say that if there is a draft class that fits your specifications, this would be it. And I think that if I'm Ottawa, I would say "no no no you're not sending us a pick in the 35ish range - you're going to send us a player that matches that" and push for JDB/#30/#64 to give up #7/#86.

But yeah, I get that it needs to be something *big* to give up that 7OA, even in a kinda meh draft.


It absolutely needs to be something they would WANT/NEED MORE. But yeah it also depends where you're at.. maybe a team just starting a rebuild could think differently.... But right now, the Sens have so many young roster players and prospects that they absolutely should focus on QUALITY assets, not QUANTITY. I actually would trade several of the picks we have to get another 1st round pick.


Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
????????? - Stutzle - ?????????
Formenton - Pinto - Brown
Kelly - Kastelic - Watson

It's well known that they want to acquire a Top-6 forward but also :

- Where do Mathieu Joseph and Colin White fit?

- Dylan Gambrell : RFA, they will probably bring him back as the 13th guy who is here to jump in the lineup when there is an injury and until they call back a forward from Belleville (depending on injuries length too)

- They could be tempted to bring back Nick Paul as a UFA depending on his price tag

- Some very good prospects getting closer and closer : Ridly Greig, Viktor Lodin, Egor Sokolov, Roby Jarventie. Greig in particular might just with a roster spot at TC and never look back.

- Angus Crookshank would have most likely made the team last year if he didn't get injured in pre-season. Unless he has a setback from injury, might be hard to keep him off the roster as well. Plays like Gallagher.

I can't see anybody else making the roster, competition will be heavy, massive logjam incoming (Dorion is a factor though, worst GM IMO, he lost Balcers, Duclair, Chlapik and Logan Brown in a very short period of time, for example)
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1 juin 2022 à 12 h 11
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It absolutely needs to be something they would WANT/NEED MORE. But yeah it also depends where you're at.. maybe a team just starting a rebuild could think differently.... But right now, the Sens have so many young roster players and prospects that they absolutely should focus on QUALITY assets, not QUANTITY. I actually would trade several of the picks we have to get another 1st round pick.


Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
????????? - Stutzle - ?????????
Formenton - Pinto - Brown
Kelly - Kastelic - Watson

It's well known that they want to acquire a Top-6 forward but also :

- Where do Mathieu Joseph and Colin White fit?

- Dylan Gambrell : RFA, they will probably bring him back as the 13th guy who is here to jump in the lineup when there is an injury and until they call back a forward from Belleville (depending on injuries length too)

- They could be tempted to bring back Nick Paul as a UFA depending on his price tag

- Some very good prospects getting closer and closer : Ridly Greig, Viktor Lodin, Egor Sokolov, Roby Jarventie. Greig in particular might just with a roster spot at TC and never look back.

- Angus Crookshank would have most likely made the team last year if he didn't get injured in pre-season. Unless he has a setback from injury, might be hard to keep him off the roster as well. Plays like Gallagher.

I can't see anybody else making the roster, competition will be heavy, massive logjam incoming (Dorion is a factor though, worst GM IMO, he lost Balcers, Duclair, Chlapik and Logan Brown in a very short period of time, for example)


If, and this is the biggest if, they did that trade and got Jake DeBrusk I think that a 2nd line of Joseph-Stutzle-DeBrusk would be a lot of fun. But then again, you could also dangle that 7OA pick for a bigger fish like Fiala or Nylander if he's available, try and jumpstart the rebuild that way.

There's a ton of intriguing pieces in Ottawa, and you just wish you had a GM you were a little more certain would know how to arrange them.
1 juin 2022 à 12 h 31
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If, and this is the biggest if, they did that trade and got Jake DeBrusk I think that a 2nd line of Joseph-Stutzle-DeBrusk would be a lot of fun. But then again, you could also dangle that 7OA pick for a bigger fish like Fiala or Nylander if he's available, try and jumpstart the rebuild that way.

There's a ton of intriguing pieces in Ottawa, and you just wish you had a GM you were a little more certain would know how to arrange them.


I would not consider trading the 7th OA pick for Jake DeBrusk, like not even close. I also have not much interest in that player. He's not a solution at all. Not good enough for my top-6, there's already AT LEAST Connor Brown, Alex Formenton, Mathieu Joseph AND Colin White that I would want on my 3rd line...

2 years at 4.0 AAV before UFA. I would much rather go with the guys who are better defensively and offer better/similar production for cheaper

Like you said, if I am dangling my 7th OA pick, it's for the Fialas or Nylanders, not for the DeBrusks and 2nd round picks.

And well, the GM/ownership is another discussion, totally terrible and it has been the case since Bryan Murray got seriously sick. With the Sens drafting and the amount of assets wealth the rebuild started with, in many other cities, this team would already be a serious contender
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1 juin 2022 à 18 h 48
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Wow. I take a day to, you know, go to work and I get called out? What's the average response total for these threads? 4? And this one has two pages? Hush your criticism and appreciate the dialouge thats happening.
To address the criticisms: 1. I do fully endorse the idea that this roster could be bottom 3 in the division, and as the most competitive division in hockey (arguably) that puts the Bs in play for a lottery pick next year. And without a doubt, this team is worse than last year and most other ones improve.
2. I think there is an incentive to move an additional piece in the trade with Ottowa. Probably a prospect, so maybe the rights to Studnicka or Brett Harrison? Replace an unsure center with a higher end prospect makes sense for the Bs and sweetens the deal for Ottawa.
3. I think there are at least 5 teams that want Reilly, that means one of them is gonna offer a second instead of a 3rd. He has term and deal.
4. Same with Debrusk (on the wing with McDavid, he's a 35-45 goal scorer, hot take)
5. Toronto is in a cap crunch and I don't think they prioritize forward depth over defense and goaltending, they know that's what they need to compete. (If they move Nylander, this is all a wash)

Thanks for the responses everyone, keep this forum a productive space.
1 juin 2022 à 21 h 1
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Wow. I take a day to, you know, go to work and I get called out? What's the average response total for these threads? 4? And this one has two pages? Hush your criticism and appreciate the dialouge thats happening.
To address the criticisms: 1. I do fully endorse the idea that this roster could be bottom 3 in the division, and as the most competitive division in hockey (arguably) that puts the Bs in play for a lottery pick next year. And without a doubt, this team is worse than last year and most other ones improve.
2. I think there is an incentive to move an additional piece in the trade with Ottowa. Probably a prospect, so maybe the rights to Studnicka or Brett Harrison? Replace an unsure center with a higher end prospect makes sense for the Bs and sweetens the deal for Ottawa.
3. I think there are at least 5 teams that want Reilly, that means one of them is gonna offer a second instead of a 3rd. He has term and deal.
4. Same with Debrusk (on the wing with McDavid, he's a 35-45 goal scorer, hot take)
5. Toronto is in a cap crunch and I don't think they prioritize forward depth over defense and goaltending, they know that's what they need to compete. (If they move Nylander, this is all a wash)

Thanks for the responses everyone, keep this forum a productive space.


Twas but a joke, chill.
2 juin 2022 à 9 h 33
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Quoting: beantownboy17
I think there is an incentive to move an additional piece in the trade with Ottowa. Probably a prospect, so maybe the rights to Studnicka or Brett Harrison? Replace an unsure center with a higher end prospect makes sense for the Bs and sweetens the deal for Ottawa.


Not even close to interesting for Ottawa, even if you add both.

BOS
2022 1st round pick (OTT) : 7th OA pick

OTT
Fabian Lysell : 21st OA pick from 2021
2022 1st round pick (EDM) : 29th+ OA pick
2022 2nd round pick (COL) : 60th OA pick


This MAYBE gets Ottawa interested. You just have no idea what a lottery pick value is. Even if that offer is 10 times better than what you offered, Ottawa doesn't have much incentive to do that. You go after the HIGEST QUALITY piece every time. They would do that move if they aren't excited by any prospect who could be available at 7th OA.
 
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