If that’s all it takes to get Theodore the yotes just make that deal themselves and then flip him for higher picks in the coming years. I doubt Vegas has any interest in trading their best defender on a team friendly deal though

Takes a lot more to get Theodore

Pitt declines

I like that you are thinking JTM for the second overall but seeing Miller is only signed for one more year I think Canucks need to add to the deal . Maybe adding their first round pick also or Garland. I do like Juraj Slafkovsky and would be okay with that.

No sane GM is giving up the 15th overall pick for the 30th overall pick and the 31st overall pick respectively.

That's not even in the ballpark for Shea Theodore, You want Theodore you need to offer up much better than your offer.

Any why would J. T. Miller waive for a rebuilding club? Noway i see Miller waiving for New Jersey.

Yeah I concede the he's probably out of the Canucks price range if they want more than that... (which they likely do)

Pittsburgh is in win now mode. Why would they trade a top 4 dman for a second round pick? Especially with their being a possibility of Kris Letang leaving


Marino is an odd one to me, he seems to do alot right but his points do not shine through and pittsburg management is reported to be keen on shipping him out.
So the general framework is likely a RD defensive puck moving defensemen with no powereplay aspirations. I don't think his worth reaches a 1rst since he is making 4m+ which is likely a fair contract, not overpaid nor underrpaid. Perhaps we add a mid level prospect or later round pick



Well, I'd bet the canucks would let teams negotiate terms prior to a trade, although the contract cant be signed until sometime in july so it'd be under some sort of assumptions.



Yeah I concede on the Theodore trade... likely not enough even in trying to take advantage of their cap situation

dropping 15 spots is quite a bit... last year Detroit traded their #14 overall for a #22, #47 and #137

I'm not sure what the math here on picks are but I guess the question is if #15 -> #30 & #32 is equal to #14 -> #22 & #47 & #137
maybe not but it's probably not THAT far off

in 2019 Coyotes traded up to #11 for #14 & #45 for #11 sooo they traded a second round pick to move up 3 spots...

Each draft year the values of dropping down or moving up probably changes but hey this is the info we got to work with here.

J.T. Miller doesn't have any NTC or any other clauses. NJD is also not a rebuilding team. They are kinda like Ottawa in that they are sick of amassing prospects and need to start complimenting and making a team around their good young players, I'm sure they are going to make some big time pitches to their target players... whether JT Miller is one of their target players I'm not sure.

The Schneider for the 9th overall was not at all for your proposed trade for Miller.
Schneider had YEARS of control.....Miller has ONE. Absolutely crazy for a lottery team to even consider.

Pittsburgh is in win now mode. Why would they trade a top 4 dman for a second round pick? Especially with their being a possibility of Kris Letang leaving

Well presumably clearing out 4m in space would give that extra room to resign Letang. In all honestly Letang is much more important to the Pens than Marino is. With him gone who is going to run the PP unit ? Marino likely isn't the answer there.

I'm sure Letang is priority #1 for the Pens after Rust was signed.

Even if letang resigns the penguins will still need to replace marino, and that wont come for free. If we resign letang and trade marino for a pick then our second best RHD is Chad Ruhwedel

"Pittsburgh Penguins general manager (GM) Ron Hextall is happy to admit a couple of things as we approach the March 21 trade deadline. He likes his team and is comfortable standing pat, but if he’s able to do anything it would be to upgrade his forward group. In order to do so, look for him to move out either defenseman John Marino or Marcus Pettersson."