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MillerNylander 3 Way

Créé par: muler7
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 25 mai 2022
Publié: 25 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
46 500 000 $
2950 000 $
2950 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Durzi, Sean [Droits de RFA]
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
3.
VAN
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
4.
5.
VAN
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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Logo de LAK
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Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
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2024
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Logo de VAN
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 891 667 $1 250 000 $2 400 000 $3 608 333 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
C
RFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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25 mai 2022 à 18 h 19
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1 season of Miller doesn't have that kind of value. It wouldn't be hard to say that 2 years of Nylander alone is more valuable than 1 of Miller. Comparatively, the LA trade is probably in the ballpark, if not a bit more, of what you could expect from Miller but you got Kerfoot as well from the Leafs.
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 24
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Too much for Nylander.
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 26
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so now the leafs need to add two top 6 forwards instead of 1 and then still cant afford to re-sign Miller next year. terrible for the leafs
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 26
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Detroit passes, No need for Hoglander especially not a the price of Zadina.
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 29
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Yeah I could handle zadina for hoglander
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 35
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Why are the Kings paying for JT Miller's salary retention? With this return, the Kings should be getting 50% retention from Vancouver on Nylander and Toronto should be paying all of Miller's salary.
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 36
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so now the leafs need to add two top 6 forwards instead of 1 and then still cant afford to re-sign Miller next year. terrible for the leafs


Gives the Leafs 8M in cap space and the best player involved in the trade.
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25 mai 2022 à 18 h 41
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Gives the Leafs 8M in cap space and the best player involved in the trade.


so which two top 6 wingers can the leafs get for 8 mill in cap space? What happens when Miller regresses to his career average or worse because he's aging out of prime while Nylander is still an 80 point plus player for two years?
this is terrible for the leafs
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 44
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
so which two top 6 wingers can the leafs get for 8 mill in cap space? What happens when Miller regresses to his career average or worse because he's aging out of prime while Nylander is still an 80 point plus player for two years?
this is terrible for the leafs


2.6m for Miller and room to add. Pretty easy to see what the result of the trade.
25 mai 2022 à 18 h 53
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2.6m for Miller and room to add. Pretty easy to see what the result of the trade.


ah yes, cap space, the magic solves everything answer. People love to bring cap space up but never have a solution to what happens if they cant sign another forward for whatever reason. So then they have to trade for one, ok, which one? and for how much? oh, and another one, and the bottom 6 depth, and goaltending.
the leafs arnt trading guys for cap space because cap space is only as valuable as what you fill it with. Miller isnt even a major upgrade on the cherriest of scenarios where he replaces Nylander and now they gotta worry about replacing Miller next summer too.
25 mai 2022 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
ah yes, cap space, the magic solves everything answer. People love to bring cap space up but never have a solution to what happens if they cant sign another forward for whatever reason. So then they have to trade for one, ok, which one? and for how much? oh, and another one, and the bottom 6 depth, and goaltending.
the leafs arnt trading guys for cap space because cap space is only as valuable as what you fill it with. Miller isnt even a major upgrade on the cherriest of scenarios where he replaces Nylander and now they gotta worry about replacing Miller next summer too.


Miller is the best player in that trade. Sure Nylander has value at two years. Kerfoot is replaceable at a similar AAV or less. Dubas seems to do well in the that regard. There's room for a year flyer on a goalie as well. Certainly not looking beyond a year or two but Nylander only has two on his deal. It's not a crazy deal.
25 mai 2022 à 19 h 15
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
Miller is the best player in that trade. Sure Nylander has value at two years. Kerfoot is replaceable at a similar AAV or less. Dubas seems to do well in the that regard. There's room for a year flyer on a goalie as well. Certainly not looking beyond a year or two but Nylander only has two on his deal. It's not a crazy deal.


except that they dont just need to replace kerfoot, they need to bring in another top 6 winger to play on the Miller/tavares line. Then they need to bring in bottom 6 scoring which was their major issue in round one. and as for taking a flyer on a goalie, a good one is going to run them 4 mill easy. , not to mention their RFA's. The leafs need to add to Nylander, not trade him for a guy and then still need to add
25 mai 2022 à 19 h 28
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
except that they dont just need to replace kerfoot, they need to bring in another top 6 winger to play on the Miller/tavares line. Then they need to bring in bottom 6 scoring which was their major issue in round one. and as for taking a flyer on a goalie, a good one is going to run them 4 mill easy. , not to mention their RFA's. The leafs need to add to Nylander, not trade him for a guy and then still need to add


Maybe a swap of Schenn for Holl solves even further cap challenges as well. In current state, it'll be tough to add alone without moving pieces out.
25 mai 2022 à 19 h 30
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Maybe a swap of Schenn for Holl solves even further cap challenges as well. In current state, it'll be tough to add alone without moving pieces out.


no, because the leafs dont need schenn, and again it's not about the cap, it's about the leafs needs. Just shipping out good players to clear cap doesnt fix the leafs issues, they need to add to their team and swapping good pieces for other good pieces doesnt get them anywhere.
 
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