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Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 12 mai 2022
Publié: 12 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
76 750 000 $
22 950 000 $
2950 000 $
2875 000 $
2825 000 $
33 350 000 $
76 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Samsonov, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
WSH
  1. Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
2.
NJD
  1. Farinacci, John [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Jersey kid
3.
NJD
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
MIN
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Zetterlund, Fabian
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Sorry, but it’s just not going to be Holtz and 2nd overall pick.
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $77 313 334 $0 $2 265 000 $5 186 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 5
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 3
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 825 000 $1 825 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG
RFA - 2
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1

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12 mai 2022 à 14 h 0
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Do the Devils have 14M in contract buyouts for the next 3 years? Do the Devils have any issues inking Bratt to a new deal?

If so, yes. The devils would likely not get good value for him. Like, my dudes, his name would not be out there if you could afford to keep him.


If the Devils were the only team interested in Fiala, and the Wild's only option was to trade him, you might have a solid point. But they're not, and it's not, so you don't.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: Caerii
If the Devils were the only team interested in Fiala, and the Wild's only option was to trade him, you might have a solid point. But they're not, so you don't.


You have absolutely no idea what teams are interested (besides NJD and OTT) and what might be offered. Will there be a big market for him with a huge bidding war? Maybe. Will there be a limited market for him due to the Wild's cap? maybe.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Do the Devils have 14M in contract buyouts for the next 3 years? Do the Devils have any issues inking Bratt to a new deal?

If so, yes. The devils would likely not get good value for him. Like, my dudes, his name would not be out there if you could afford to keep him.


His name has been out there since last summer. It takes trading away 2 liabilities to keep Fiala. You’re turning this in your favor way too hard.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
You have absolutely no idea what teams are interested (besides NJD and OTT) and what might be offered. Will there be a big market for him with a huge bidding war? Maybe. Will there be a limited market for him due to the Wild's cap? maybe.


Why would the Wild's cap have any effect whatsoever on which of the 31 other teams in the league are interested in having Fiala play for their team?

Do you think Buffalo is like, man, we really want Fiala, but Minnesota has no cap space, so I guess we'll just find a different player?
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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Why would the Wild's cap have any effect whatsoever on which of the 31 other teams in the league are interested in having Fiala play for their team?

Do you think Buffalo is like, man, we really want Fiala, but Minnesota has no cap space, so I guess we'll just find a different player?


No but maybe teams won't offer a ton because of your situation. Or maybe they won't want to pay Fiala 7.5+

Like I said, there may be a huge market. There may be a limited market. But I don't remember a situation in which the cap-strapped team got good value for the player they trade away.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: SimonSelaars3
His name has been out there since last summer. It takes trading away 2 liabilities to keep Fiala. You’re turning this in your favor way too hard.

They should do that, then, and keep the ppg winger and ignore every trade offer
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
They should do that, then, and keep the ppg winger and ignore every trade offer


I’d agree, unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be Guerin’s plan.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 36
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I’d agree, unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be Guerin’s plan.

Because he likely can’t afford to keep him…right?
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Because he likely can’t afford to keep him…right?


Or Fiala was never in his long-term plans.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: RazWild
Or Fiala was never in his long-term plans.

The point per game guy? Not in the long term plan? Well alright then.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Morzski
In the 2021 offseason he said that, Fiala is looking at 7-8 after the season he's had.


Sounds about right to me.
I didn’t give too much thought into dollar figures.
12 mai 2022 à 14 h 59
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Caps are not trading Sammy for Zacha. Stop it. It ain't happening, especially now that he's playing great in the playoffs. I could MAYBE see them considering VV for Zacha, but still don't think it makes sense. They don't need more 3rd liners.


This was the offer that has been around for a while from caps fans. I actually added the pick.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
This was the offer that has been around for a while from caps fans. I actually added the pick.

I would prefer Vanacek anyway
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12 mai 2022 à 15 h 4
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Because it's secondary and tertiary pieces for a player like Fiala. There's no primary piece that Minnesota actually wants long term, a good higher end prospect or 1st. If there's no better package than this, I would just as soon take a 1st, 2nd, 3rd from an offer sheet. The 1st will be next year, unprotected.


I think it’s silly to hold out for the 1st.

Which is better?

1. Pick #32
2. Pick #37, 2023 2nd, Zetterlund, Boqvist
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 5
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Ottawa and Buffalo beat this offer every day of the week


Maybe so. But if Fiala wants to extend in NJ, but not in Buffalo or Ottawa, what then?
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 6
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I think it’s silly to hold out for the 1st.

Which is better?

1. Pick #32
2. Pick #37, 2023 2nd, Zetterlund, Boqvist


A pick in the 7-15 range.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 6
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Maybe so. But if Fiala wants to extend in NJ, but not in Buffalo or Ottawa, what then?


Then we keep Fiala😂😂 I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this before you understand it.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 16
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Maybe so. But if Fiala wants to extend in NJ, but not in Buffalo or Ottawa, what then?


Because it's incredibly short-cited and foolish of any young player to limit where they're willing to sign.

And I guarantee his agent is advising against that. The more teams involved who're interested in him the better it is for both Guerin AND Fiala. The more teams Fiala is willing to sign with the more his agent has the leverage necessary to set the price on his clients next contract. The less teams he's willing to sign with the less leverage his agent has as well. It's just as bad for Fiala if he limits where he wants or is willing to go.

It's no different then if Fiala was an UFA. The more teams talking to his agent, the more money he can make by starting a bidding war.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: RazWild
A pick in the 7-15 range.


7. OTT - Dint see them trading pick
8. DET - Maybe for a center, but for a winger?
9. BUF - Will Fiala chose to extend there?
10. ANA - Maybe the best bet, but not sure if they do for winger
11. SJS - No cap space
12. CBJ - again, for a Center, maybe, for a winger unlikely
13. NYI - No cap, other needs
14. WPG - unlikely
15. VAN - they are trying to reduce payroll

Anaheim is probably the best bet there, but they would likely offer pick #23 and a cheaper player.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 24
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Because it's incredibly short-cited and foolish of any young player to limit where they're willing to sign.

And I guarantee his agent is advising against that. The more teams involved who're interested in him the better it is for both Guerin AND Fiala. The more teams Fiala is willing to sign with the more his agent has the leverage necessary to set the price on his clients next contract. The less teams he's willing to sign with the less leverage his agent has as well. It's just as bad for Fiala if he limits where he wants or is willing to go.

It's no different then if Fiala was an UFA. The more teams talking to his agent, the more money he can make by starting a bidding war.


A bidding war on the contract or on the trade?

If they collect 31 extension offers, pick the best and go to Guerin and say they want to go there. Guerin will have hard time creating a bidding war on the trade.

If they say they will sign extension anywhere he is dealt, Guerin will have tons of great offers, but Fiala gets less $$.
12 mai 2022 à 15 h 46
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A bidding war on the contract or on the trade?

If they collect 31 extension offers, pick the best and go to Guerin and say they want to go there. Guerin will have hard time creating a bidding war on the trade.

If they say they will sign extension anywhere he is dealt, Guerin will have tons of great offers, but Fiala gets less $$.


It's both. I'm not certain why they have to be separate in your eyes. It's not just an either/or scenario here.

Hypothetically, if Guerin has say 5 teams interested in Fiala, Fiala's agent is going to be talking to 5 different GM's. That's a good situation for Fiala's agent to be in.

If Fiala limits himself to just one destination, that GM has greater leverage in contract negotiations, and Fiala will potentially have to take less on his next deal. Which is less ideal for him.

If 3 out of the 5 teams are within the agent's asking price but differ on the total AAV but meet the agent and Fiala's criteria and are willing to sign with any of them Guerin can still select whichever one of the three that gives the best return.

Fiala ultimately doesn't decide where he gets to go. Guerin does. That hasn't changed. But by that same token, having more teams involved means Fiala is getting the best deal possible on his next contract with his next team even if it might not be the best one on offer. He still wins by getting more than if he limited himself to one team, and one team only.
12 mai 2022 à 18 h 54
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Quoting: SimonSelaars3
Then we keep Fiala😂😂 I don’t know how many times I have to tell you this before you understand it.


Good luck lol
12 mai 2022 à 19 h 13
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I think it’s silly to hold out for the 1st.

Which is better?

1. Pick #32
2. Pick #37, 2023 2nd, Zetterlund, Boqvist



If Devils fans didn't have strawman arguments, they wouldn't have anything.
12 mai 2022 à 19 h 36
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Good luck lol


?? Not sure what’s so hard about it, it’s very doable.
 
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