In the 2012 Draft we had players of the same caliber with insane talent but were or are NHL players (and some even scored 30 goals in a season). That year the best players were defencemen.

I believe this draft is similar to that of 2012, 2017 or 2018 draft. Some good NHL players

1. The package is enough to land the 5th OVA pick (value wise) the problem is is is not what the Devils would be interested in.

2. devil you can't be serious can you?! Caufield for 5th over all would be like the Habs saying we want Jack Hughes for 3rd OVA. And when in the history of the draft has ANY team ever paid a top 3 pick + another prospect with 1st round value + a roster player worth a 2nd or 3rd (half retained) to move down in the draft? Like get serious man!

I get that Devils fans are not happy with all the trades proposed for 5th OVA but at least this one has the value, even if it does not meet the needs of the Devils.

I know the Canadiens won't accept that (I mentioned that in a previous ACGM)

The only way Devils trade their first to the Canadiens is if Caufield, Suzuki, or Canadiens first is coming back. If not then that's fine, we'll keep the first or trade it for something better than all of the lame Canadiens offers

I know the Canadiens won't accept that (I mentioned that in a previous ACGM)

The only way Devils trade their first to the Canadiens is if Caufield, Suzuki, or Canadiens first is coming back. If not then that's fine, we'll keep the first or trade it for something better than all of the lame Canadiens offers

Guhle is a top prospect, he is already NHL ready and by most accounts his floor is a 2nd pairing D man. Kind of think that is worthy of a top 5 pick. That being said I don't know whether the Devils are looking for RHD or LHD lol.

And the Devils aren’t gonna “sell low” on their top5 pick
You MTL fans are delusional with the overvaluation of your players/prospects

Oh I agree the Devils are not moving the pick and they shouldn't considering how far they are away from contending. I just don't see the sense in screwing with an entire fanbase because of some bad trade offers. Instead of either just ignoring them or trying to educate them. Montreal and New Jersey aren't good trade partners because we are in the same boat, we both need younger players to help facilitate a rebuild/retool/reconstruction whatever you want to call it lol.

No, that is not worthy of a top5 pick
No way

I have tried educating them but they don't listen

The whole point of this thread was that the top 5 players in this draft are not of great quality (franchise), that is why the Devils are looking for a team to be stupid enough to trade a Top5 proven prospect. If I were the Habs, I would trade the #1 pick this year for a prospect like Trevor Zegras why not if they would be stupid enough to do it.

Power & Guhle are not on the same level
Enjoy what you’re smoking though!

Yes they are, they just play different styles of games!

Edit** both have top pairing ceilings and 2nd pairing floors.

Or the Devils want to accelerate their rebuild so they're willing to trade their first for a proven good player, not scraps as seen in Canadiens ACGM

Yes they are, they just play different styles of games!

Edit** both have top pairing ceilings and 2nd pairing floors.

Lol
Again with the delusional MTL fans

Let’s just spin this around for a sec
You’re gonna agree that whoever the Sabres pick at #16 overall is gonna be the n the same level as whoever u guys pick in the top3 then…. right?

Is that actually the logic you’re going to use?

Come on now dude
That’s just bananas

Power > Guhle and its not even a debate

Power is not better than Guhle just more flashy. Fans think that offensive D men have more value or are "better" because they put up points but they truly are not better just play differently. Would you say Chris Letang in his prime was better than Shea Weber in his prime? The correct answer is no neither was better than the other they just played different styles. It is the same with Power and Guhle

Power is not better than Guhle just more flashy. Fans think that offensive D men have more value or are "better" because they put up points but they truly are not better just play differently. Would you say Chris Letang in his prime was better than Shea Weber in his prime? The correct answer is no neither was better than the other they just played different styles. It is the same with Power and Guhle

The whole point of this thread was that the top 5 players in this draft are not of great quality (franchise), that is why the Devils are looking for a team to be stupid enough to trade a Top5 proven prospect. If I were the Habs, I would trade the #1 pick this year for a prospect like Trevor Zegras why not if they would be stupid enough to do it.

Power is not better than Guhle just more flashy. Fans think that offensive D men have more value or are "better" because they put up points but they truly are not better just play differently. Would you say Chris Letang in his prime was better than Shea Weber in his prime? The correct answer is no neither was better than the other they just played different styles. It is the same with Power and Guhle