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Defense redux

Créé par: The_Rocket
Date de création initiale: 27 avr. 2022
Publié: 27 avr. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Trying some new ideas
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Highmore, Matthew1750 000 $
Lockwood, William1750 000 $
Lammikko, Juho1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Paul, Nicholas44 000 000 $
Strome, Ryan55 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Walker, Sean
LAK
  1. Pearson, Tanner
2.
VAN
  1. Zub, Artem
  2. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
OTT
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
3.
VAN
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
Détails additionnels:
Assumes Ellis is traded
PHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 539 167 $1 250 000 $1 150 000 $960 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Elias
7 350 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Garland, Conor
4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Strome, Ryan
5 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA
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van Riemsdyk, James
7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Paul, Nicholas
4 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 7
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Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Dickinson, Jason
2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Lammikko, Juho
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA
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Highmore, Matthew
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Hughes, Quinn
7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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Walker, Sean
2 650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Martin, Spencer
762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Schenn, Luke
850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Poolman, Tucker
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Burroughs, Kyle
750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Lockwood, William
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1

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27 avr. à 20 h 35
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LA says no. If we've learned anything from this season it's that defensive redundancies are crucial in the event of injuries.
27 avr. à 21 h 11
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Absolutely no interest whatsoever in installing Tanner Pearson 2.0
27 avr. à 21 h 21
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Hot take, Vancouver adds in a Zub for Boeser swap. Sens can find another top 6 winger way more easily than they can find a Shutdown RHD like Zub.
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27 avr. à 21 h 42
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA says no. If we've learned anything from this season it's that defensive redundancies are crucial in the event of injuries.


Quoting: OldNYIfan
Absolutely no interest whatsoever in installing Tanner Pearson 2.0


Kings have Doughty/Roy/durzi/Spence/grans/faber on RHD and could probably re-sign stetcher for cheap. I think they will dangle walker to add up front this offseason. Just a hunch though

As for why Pearson specifically, kings and Canucks were in trade talks earlier this year. Main piece the kinds were targeting was garland but there was some speculation it could be Pearson https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-kings-making-calls-to-canucks.html?m=1

If it was garland being traded, I would want roy or durzi or grans instead
27 avr. à 21 h 44
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Kings have Doughty/Roy/durzi/Spence/grans/faber on RHD and could probably re-sign stetcher for cheap. I think they will dangle walker to add up front this offseason. Just a hunch though

As for why Pearson specifically, kings and Canucks were in trade talks earlier this year. Main piece the kinds were targeting was garland but there was some speculation it could be Pearson https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-kings-making-calls-to-canucks.html?m=1

If it was garland being traded, I would want roy or durzi or grans instead


I'd argue that picking up Pearson is not "adding up front."
27 avr. à 21 h 56
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I'd argue that picking up Pearson is not "adding up front."


Tanner Pearson’s 1.73 even strength points per 60 would be tied with Anne Kopitar for 5th on the kings this year.

You can easily slot him in on a 2nd or 3rd line for some secondary scoring without needing to give him PP time to produce. His defensive impact were also very good this year as he was one of Vancouvers best forwards at prevent chances against.

Im not saying he’s a stud or anything, but neither is walker. It’s a mid pairing d-man for a middle 6 forward. Utility is the same, just LA and Van are both trading for positions of strength for positions of need
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27 avr. à 22 h 23
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Hot take, Vancouver adds in a Zub for Boeser swap. Sens can find another top 6 winger way more easily than they can find a Shutdown RHD like Zub.


depends on their next contracts i guess
27 avr. à 22 h 25
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Quoting: Borocop
depends on their next contracts i guess


I’m assuming Boeser signs 6.375 AAV long term
27 avr. à 22 h 28
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I’m assuming Boeser signs 6.375 AAV long term


if thats what he gets, and zub comes in longer term aroung 5m aav i think id pass as ottawa
28 avr. à 0 h 11
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Kings have Doughty/Roy/durzi/Spence/grans/faber on RHD and could probably re-sign stetcher for cheap. I think they will dangle walker to add up front this offseason. Just a hunch though

As for why Pearson specifically, kings and Canucks were in trade talks earlier this year. Main piece the kinds were targeting was garland but there was some speculation it could be Pearson https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-kings-making-calls-to-canucks.html?m=1

If it was garland being traded, I would want roy or durzi or grans instead


Garland for Grans plus makes sense. Pearson for anything makes no sense -- wrong age, wrong contract, wrong side.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Garland for Grans plus makes sense. Pearson for anything makes no sense -- wrong age, wrong contract, wrong side.


Wrong contract? His contract is good, just not necessarily where the Kings want to be spending cap space I guess
28 avr. à 1 h 23
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Tanner Pearson’s 1.73 even strength points per 60 would be tied with Anne Kopitar for 5th on the kings this year.

You can easily slot him in on a 2nd or 3rd line for some secondary scoring without needing to give him PP time to produce. His defensive impact were also very good this year as he was one of Vancouvers best forwards at prevent chances against.

Im not saying he’s a stud or anything, but neither is walker. It’s a mid pairing d-man for a middle 6 forward. Utility is the same, just LA and Van are both trading for positions of strength for positions of need


LA would trade Walker for a draft pick before they traded him for Pearson. Tanner Pearson would be a 4th line forward on the Kings.

Kings wingers better than Pearson: Kempe, Iafallo, Moore, Arvidsson, Kaliyev, Athanasiou.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA would trade Walker for a draft pick before they traded him for Pearson. Tanner Pearson would be a 4th line forward on the Kings.

Kings wingers better than Pearson: Kempe, Iafallo, Moore, Arvidsson, Kaliyev, Athanasiou.


It’s a big stretch to say athanasiou and kaliyev are better than Pearson. Pearson has a better two way profile than both of them. Also, as you pointed out early in this AGM, injuries happen. Pearson can slide up to a top 6 role effectively.

The value in the trade is fair. If the fit isn’t right that’s fine but yogurt underselling Pearson
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It’s a big stretch to say athanasiou and kaliyev are better than Pearson. Pearson has a better two way profile than both of them. Also, as you pointed out early in this AGM, injuries happen. Pearson can slide up to a top 6 role effectively.

The value in the trade is fair. If the fit isn’t right that’s fine but yogurt underselling Pearson


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