bc hagel wasn’t moving unless it was an overpay and tampa’s picks are always late

Tampa can do two 1st's because they're all-in right now. They've got a chance to three-peat.

By the time those picks turn in to NHLers, there's a good chance that Brisebois may not be the GM. That 6 or 7 years down the road that those picks would be full-time players.

JT Miller is a free agent and they're not going to have the money to resign him. Hagel has two more years at a 1.5mm cap hit. Steal.

situations aren't remotely the same

What about the Blake Coleman situation?



Blake Coleman had two years at 1.8 million.

Tampa spends 1 first round pick + Nolan Foote.

I thought Tampa got fleeced.



Brandon Hagel has three years at 1.5 million before his last year as an RFA.

Tampa spends 2 first round picks + gives up Raddysh and Katchouk for 2 fourth round picks.

I thought Tampa got fleeced.



Why should the difference between Coleman and Hagel be a first round pick, roughly??

Why can't they just not get fleeced whenever they need to make a big trade??



It seems for every year that goes by, Tampa needs to spend more for less.

Foote was probably considered late 1st rd value at the time...IMO the trade breaks down in 2 Hagel for 2 1sts and Raddysh + Katchouk for 2 4ths + Necessary Cap Space

I thought Coleman was an overpay. I was wrong. Thought Goodrow + 3rd for a 1st was an overpay. I was wrong. They were essential AND available for 2 Cup runs. Brilliant acquisitions because they won.

Savard for a 1st, 3rd and a 4th. Thought that was a lot but it helped secure the second Cup. Brilliant acquisition because they won.

A lot for Hagel but his cap hit for this year and the next two plus how good a player he has become keeps Tampa at the forefront for the next three years. That's brilliant. Raddysh and Katchouk so they can afford Hagel's cap hit. Outstanding. They get 2 4ths as well. Underrated and so smart.

It's not spending more for less. It's definitely not getting fleeced. It's spending what you have to to continue to be a Stanley Cup favorite for this year and quite possibly two more years after this. Hats off to Brisebois.

Miller isn't the best comparison though, the Blake Coleman trade is a much better comparison. He was traded for a 1st and Nolan Foote (A 1st rounder from the previous year).
The way I see it Hagel was always going to cost more than Coleman did for these reasons:
Hagel has a lower cap hit (1.5 vs 1.8)
Hagel is much younger (23 at the time of trade vs 27)
Hagel was having a slightly better season than Coleman
Hagel has 3 years left at his cheap deal (2 for Coleman)
Hagel is an RFA at the end of the deal (Coleman was a UFA) Obviously the most important factor here

I think Tampa probably got better value in the Hagel trade than they did the Coleman trade if I'm being honest