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Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first, you can keep that pile of scraps

He isnt going to be "affordable" he is clearly the top rental Dman available

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 42

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Anaheim actually receives a cap dump that's been buried in the AHL all year (signed for another year at $2.75M to boot!), a 25 year old LD who hadn't really cracked the lineup *before* tearing his ACL, an injury we all know has a chance of ruining a guy's game, a guy who gets his "first rounder" pedigree by being a reach when he was originally picked at #30, another former first rounder with 16 goals in 42 AHL games this year being the best production he's had in 5 professional seasons, and next year's 1st rounder.

I'll give you credit for being a great salesman, at least.

4 mars 2022 à 11 h 42

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edit: double post, bad internet today

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 43

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Less pieces more quality for lindholm. Guys like Moore and senyshen just aren't gonna cut it.

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 46

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Quoting: Salzy

Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first, you can keep that pile of scraps

He isnt going to be "affordable" he is clearly the top rental Dman available

You're crazy if you think Anaheim will get 2 firsts+ for couple months of Lindholm.

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 47

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Quoting: bhavikp27

You're crazy if you think Anaheim will get 2 firsts+ for couple months of Lindholm.

Boston doesnt have any other impactful prospect they could offer

Cons of having arguably the worst prospect pool in the league

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 51

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Quoting: Salzy

Boston doesnt have any other impactful prospect they could offer

Cons of having arguably the worst prospect pool in the league

Irrelevant to what I said. No one is giving 2 firsts+ for Lindholm, whether they have a good or bad prospect pool.

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 56

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Irrelevant to what I said. No one is giving 2 firsts+ for Lindholm, whether they have a good or bad prospect pool.

It is completely relevant, just because you dont like it doesnt mean its irrelevant.

Say in bostons wallet (prospect pool) they have a $5 (Lysell) and a bunch of $1s

If the Ducks are going to sell lindholm, those $1s arent going to cut it, and Boston doesnt have anything in the $2-$4 range so they have to overpay because they dont have anything else to offer

Bostons top prospect wouldnt be the top prospect on 20+ teams

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4 mars 2022 à 11 h 59

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Using your analogy Studnicka is $2-$3 and Beecher is $2-$4 but still, 2022 1st + Lysell is an insane ask.

4 mars 2022 à 12 h 8

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Quoting: Salzy

Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first, you can keep that pile of scraps

He isnt going to be "affordable" he is clearly the top rental Dman available

Don't think it would take quite that much, as much as I'd love Lysell on the Ducks. 1st + 2nd / Harrison + 3rd would be enough imo.

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 9

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Don't think it would take quite that much, as much as I'd love Lysell on the Ducks. 1st + 2nd / Harrison + 3rd would be enough imo.

I just dont see how Boston can have the best offer without it being Lysell + a 1st

Any other team tied to Lindholm could beat anything else they offer easily

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 15

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Quoting: messynews

Using your analogy Studnicka is $2-$3 and Beecher is $2-$4 but still, 2022 1st + Lysell is an insane ask.

OP has Studnicka in their Philly trade, so he's not an option.

I still say that the Anaheim trade is not good for the Ducks at all. The only prospect of value in it is Beecher, and even he's in the 4-6 range in Boston's (not very well regarded) list of prospects. Plus, I'd argue that attaching John Moore to this trade basically cancels out the positive value that Beecher brings. When the rest of the deal is damaged goods (Zboril) and a real non-prospect (Senyshyn) with next year's 1st, it's really underwhelming. You've either got to add a better prospect, or another 1st to make that deal anywhere near even.

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 22

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Quoting: Salzy

Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first, you can keep that pile of scraps

He isnt going to be "affordable" he is clearly the top rental Dman available

No he doesn't. He starts with a 1st and 3rd and maybe a C prospect.

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 24

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Quoting: Salzy

I'm not talking about Boston; in general, nobody is giving 2 firsts+ for Lindholm. How do you make it so hard to understand?

4 mars 2022 à 12 h 24

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Quoting: Chopper02

No he doesn't. He starts with a 1st and 3rd and maybe a C prospect.

1st and a B prospect, which Boston doesnt have so it goes to the top prospect they have. Boston having a horrid prospect pool doesnt mean the Ducks take less

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 26

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Quoting: bhavikp27

I'm not talking about Boston; in general, nobody is giving 2 firsts+ for Lindholm. How do you make it so hard to understand?

I am talking about Boston, this is a Boston ACGM I never said 2+ firsts for Lindholm, that was a point YOU brought up not me. I said what the ask from Boston would be seeing how bad their prospect pool is

Whats so hard to understand about that?

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 30

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Quoting: Salzy

Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first, you can keep that pile of scraps

He isnt going to be "affordable" he is clearly the top rental Dman available

"Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first"

Lysell = first round pick
First = first round pick

= Two firsts

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 31

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Quoting: bhavikp27

"Lindholm starts with Lysell and a first"

Lysell = first round pick
First = first round pick

= Two firsts

Which is only applied to Boston because they have a terrible prospect pool

Very confusing I know

Context is important maybe you should look that up sometime

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 36

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Quoting: Salzy

Which is only applied to Boston because they have a terrible prospect pool

Very confusing I know

Context is important maybe you should look that up sometime

So you would rather get less overall from Carolina because they have a better prospect pool?

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Quoting: bhavikp27

So you would rather get less overall from Carolina because they have a better prospect pool?

It isnt less overall. Thats what you arent understanding

Say Boston has 1 A, 0 Bs and 5 Cs
Say Car has 1 A, 1B and 4 Cs

CAR can offer a 1st round pick and a B, which Boston cannot do, so if Boston would want Lindholm they would need to offer that "A" with a first

Why would the Ducks take a 1st and a "C" over a first and a "B" that would just be bad asset management

The Ducks arent going to lower the price because Boston has to overpay or not reach the price

And I havent once said Boston should do that, They shouldnt trade Lysell for a rental let alone add onto him for one

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 41

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Quoting: Salzy

1st and a B prospect, which Boston doesnt have so it goes to the top prospect they have. Boston having a horrid prospect pool doesnt mean the Ducks take less

Lysell is a B prospect which is why so many ACGM want him. Their pool isn't great but let's not pretend a rental gets a B prospect in return

4 mars 2022 à 12 h 43

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Quoting: Chopper02

Lysell is a B prospect which is why so many ACGM want him. Their pool isn't great but let's not pretend a rental gets a B prospect in return

The letters I am using is just to show value difference, I'm aware Lysell is a B prospect.

The top rental D on the market will fetch a 1st and a B prospect. Whether that be Lindholm or Klingberg

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4 mars 2022 à 12 h 45

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