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Girard

Créé par: NucksnOilers
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2022
Publié: 22 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
In this scenario the oilers have 3.4 mil in dead cap to play with due to keith retiring
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
75 550 000 $
21 110 000 $
1900 000 $
11 150 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
34 750 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Petrov, Matvei
  3. Samorukov, Dmitri [Droits de RFA]
  4. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Bourgault comes over signed and ready to play and yamamoto comes over on an already signed team friendly deal of 2.5x4

2 Firsts,a second,A young top 9 forward with top 6 potential and a young puck moving d-man, a young forward who's elite at goal scoring with top 9 potential is a kings ransom but totally worth it on the oilers end as girard is arguably one of the most valuable assets in the league
2.
EDM
    Keith retires and gives edmonton 3.25 in dead cap to play with
    3.
    EDM
      No way that both of these dudes don't retire after this year
      4.
      EDM
      1. Woo, Jett
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
      VAN
      1. Barrie, Tyson
      Détails additionnels:
      Now I understand this is controversial but barrie is terrible we all get that but if guys like John Klingberg,Ben Chiarot and Jeff Petry are all pulling in firsts then why not barrie considering they all are just as bad defensively as him and better offensively. The destination doesn't matter but if those guys can pull in that kind of return than a 2nd+a B+ prospect is not a reach at all for barrie (WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THE CANUCKS ARE NOT THE DESTINATION JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A RETURN)
      5.
      NYI
      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
      Détails additionnels:
      Trade happens at the trade deadline with koskinen going the other way
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Enfoui
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2022
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      2023
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      Logo de VAN
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
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      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      2024
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      Logo de EDM
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2281 500 000 $85 774 333 $896 000 $2 200 000 $-4 274 333 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 6
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      12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      5 550 000 $5 550 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
      C, AG
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
      AG, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
      AG, C
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      1 110 000 $1 110 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Islanders de New York
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      750 000 $750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      DG
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      850 000 $850 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      G
      UFA

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      22 févr. 2022 à 16 h 59
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      @coga16 thoughts on this girard trade? (It's more quantity over quality but it holds lot's of things the avs could flip)
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 1
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      That Colorado trade is so bad for the Oilers.
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 5
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      coga16 thoughts on this girard trade? (It's more quantity over quality but it holds lot's of things the avs could flip)


      Any trade that involves G would require a significant asset coming back (e.g., Broberg +) or a player of equivalent quality. A trade like the one you've proposed here only makes sense if the Avs are rebuilding, which they most definitely are not. Pretty easy decline in my book.
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      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 6
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      Quoting: Skedn
      That Colorado trade is so bad for the Oilers.


      It's 100 percent a risk and I knew that while making it and honestly I don't blame u for thinking it's the worst trade ever b u t

      Girard is a top ten d-man in the league on a team-friendly deal long term which is perfect for the oilers.

      If edmonton holds onto their assets for years to come and wastes mcdavids and drais primes with a lackluster d-core then what.

      You still keep holloway and jesse you throw away some picks in drafts that won't matter cause the players won't match up with mcdavid or drai and yamamoto is a loss that can be replaced.
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 9
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      Quoting: Foppa21
      Any trade that involves G would require a significant asset coming back (e.g., Broberg +) or a player of equivalent quality. A trade like the one you've proposed here only makes sense if the Avs are rebuilding, which they most definitely are not. Pretty easy decline in my book.


      I am very determined on making this work so how about a 3 team deal that involves a rebuilding team getting these assets and then sending a star player to the avs
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 9
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      Keith is def done after this year either way. its only a mil in 2022-23 then 500K following year if you buy him out.
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 11
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      Quoting: mbaer84
      Keith is def done after this year either way. its only a mil in 2022-23 then 500K following year if you buy him out.


      I thought it was they get 3.4 million in extra cap to use if he retires?
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 14
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      I am very determined on making this work so how about a 3 team deal that involves a rebuilding team getting these assets and then sending a star player to the avs


      *cough* Chychrun *cough* *cough*
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      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 20
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      *cough* Chychrun *cough* *cough*


      The issue with that is why wouldn't edmonton just do that trade for chychrun in the first place?

      I would 100x rather have Girard thought cause his term is longer so what about a three team trade that includes Girard going to edmonton,debrincat and 25% of assets from edmonton going to the avs, and 75% of the assets going to the hawks
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 20
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      I thought it was they get 3.4 million in extra cap to use if he retires?


      oh yeah I mean even if he DIDNT retire I bet they buy him out to clear space. So either way hes gone next year. His contract only is 1.5 mil in salary so he might just walk away.
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      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 26
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      coga16 thoughts on this girard trade? (It's more quantity over quality but it holds lot's of things the avs could flip)


      they are not selling him for futures/prospects. Avs are in now.
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 32
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      klefbom will retire after his contract runs out and hard to say with smith. I think both LTIRetire after this season.
      22 févr. 2022 à 17 h 45
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      The issue with that is why wouldn't edmonton just do that trade for chychrun in the first place?

      I would 100x rather have Girard thought cause his term is longer so what about a three team trade that includes Girard going to edmonton,debrincat and 25% of assets from edmonton going to the avs, and 75% of the assets going to the hawks


      Haha you're the one trying to trade for G, I'm just throwing out other ideas that the Avs might go for assuming Byram establishes himself. Term and team-friendly deal makes G incredibly valuable. Debrincat's great, but he'd need a raise the same season that Mackinnon will get his dump truck full of cash. Couldn't see Joe going for that.

      Players that make sense on paper but not in reality: Buchnevich, Reinhart, Hall (lol), Beauvillier, Hertl (could be interesting), etc.
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      22 févr. 2022 à 18 h 23
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      That makes COL worse in the short term which means no. COL would want a young top 6 forward locked up at a similar number as a starting point.
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      22 févr. 2022 à 18 h 48
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      Take 50% of Barries contract and Canucks still say no
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      22 févr. 2022 à 19 h 54
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      Quoting: Drshnuckels91
      The issue with that is why wouldn't edmonton just do that trade for chychrun in the first place?

      I would 100x rather have Girard thought cause his term is longer so what about a three team trade that includes Girard going to edmonton,debrincat and 25% of assets from edmonton going to the avs, and 75% of the assets going to the hawks


      A three team trade is probably about the only way you could do it but it does give you room to get more creative.
      23 févr. 2022 à 2 h 53
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      Girard is a great player but he's not what the Oilers need. The biggest issue with the oilers D is that they are too soft and play a finesse game. They need a cheap, meat and potatoes guy in the #4 slot who can punish and clear the net.
       
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