SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Honest

Créé par: Tarlam01
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 19 févr. 2022
Publié: 19 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
2022-2023 opening night roster


Let's say we got Nemec 3rd overall

I'd feel comfortable with these and I genuinely think that all of these deals makes sense. Give me your thoughts about the trades or player choice etc...
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
1925 000 $
3873 333 $
3785 000 $
2925 000 $
1750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
21 400 000 $
2850 000 $
3800 000 $
1750 000 $
11 150 000 $
3868 333 $
22 500 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
11 000 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kharullin, Marat
1750 000 $
Williams, Josh
3785 000 $
Nemec, Simon
3925 000 $
AHL, Defensemen
11 000 000 $
AHL, Forwards
11 000 000 $
AHL, Goalies
11 000 000 $
LTIR, LTIR
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
2.
MTL
  1. Kostin, Klim [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
TDL
STL
    Ben Chiarot (3 way 75% retained)
    3.
    MTL
    1. Nemeth, Patrik
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    TDL
    4.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
    Détails additionnels:
    TDL
    FLA
      Brett Kulak
      5.
      MTL
      1. Van Pottelberghe, Joren [Liste de réserve]
      DET
      1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
      6.
      MTL
      1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [Droits de RFA]
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
      PIT
      1. Petry, Jeff (937 500 $ retained)
      7.
      MTL
      1. Coe, Brandon
      2. Knyzhov, Nikolai [Droits de RFA]
      3. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
      4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
      5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
      SJS
      8.
      MTL
      1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (COL)
      Détails additionnels:
      TDL
      COL
        Cedric Paquette
        Rachats de contrats
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
        Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
        2022
        Logo de CGY
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de STL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de STL
        Logo de PIT
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de ANA
        Logo de CAR
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de TBL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de STL
        2023
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de NYR
        Logo de SJS
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de FLA
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de CGY
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de COL
        2024
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de SJS
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        Logo de MTL
        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2382 500 000 $69 114 999 $1 132 500 $850 000 $13 385 001 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
        AG, AD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
        C
        UFA - 8
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
        C
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        AD, AG
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 5
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
        AD, AG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
        C
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        880 833 $880 833 $
        AD, AG
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
        DG
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        875 000 $875 000 $
        DG/DD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        800 000 $800 000 $
        G
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        925 000 $925 000 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Sharks de San Jose
        7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
        DG/DD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        LTIR, LTIR
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        850 000 $850 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
        DD
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
        DG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        AHL, Forwards
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        C
        UFA - 1
        Kharullin, Marat
        750 000 $750 000 $
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        785 000 $785 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        925 000 $925 000 $
        C, AD
        RFA
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        C, AG
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        825 000 $825 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Sharks de San Jose
        850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        AD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        838 333 $838 333 $
        C
        UFA - 1
        750 000 $750 000 $
        AG, C
        UFA - 2
        750 000 $750 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        Williams, Josh
        785 000 $785 000 $
        AHL, Defensemen
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        800 000 $800 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
        DG/DD
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        DG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        DD
        UFA
        Nemec, Simon
        925 000 $925 000 $
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        828 333 $828 333 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        848 333 $848 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        DG/DD
        RFA - 2
        750 000 $750 000 $
        DG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        750 000 $750 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
        AHL, Goalies
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        873 333 $873 333 $
        G
        RFA
        Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
        868 333 $868 333 $
        G
        RFA - 3
        750 000 $750 000 $
        G
        RFA

        Code d'intégration

        • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
        • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

        Texte intégré

        Cliquer pour surligner
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 24
        #1
        mokumboi
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: avr. 2019
        Messages: 29,691
        Mentions "j'aime": 11,484
        The Blues are NOT doing that. Again I ask, how does Chiarot's "value" magically keep rising? He's not even playing right now.
        capsfan2121 a aimé ceci.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 31
        #2
        Démarrer sujet
        Juraj Slapshotsky
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2020
        Messages: 1,133
        Mentions "j'aime": 583
        Quoting: mokumboi
        The Blues are NOT doing that. Again I ask, how does Chiarot's "value" magically keep rising? He's not even playing right now.


        He's currently injured but may play tomorrow. Blues does have a hole on their left side and a 1m Chiarot comes in really handy. It is an overpay but Chiarot is the type of defensemen that gets you through playoffs with his physicality. David Savard last year got pretty much the same return even though he was actually more costly in terms of $. To have watched them both play this year I can tell you right now that Chiarot is indeed a more useful defensemen than Savard. Remember that teams do overpay at the TDL even if it's not the pure value of a player
        Shire a aimé ceci.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 40
        #3
        Go Habs Go
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: mars 2017
        Messages: 10,667
        Mentions "j'aime": 4,092
        Lehkonen for two 2nds is fine, assuming that's the best offer, but Nemeth coming back makes it a pass.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 44
        #4
        Démarrer sujet
        Juraj Slapshotsky
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2020
        Messages: 1,133
        Mentions "j'aime": 583
        Quoting: ricochetii
        Lehkonen for two 2nds is fine, assuming that's the best offer, but Nemeth coming back makes it a pass.


        Tbh I couldn't care less about a 2.5m dman for a couple of years. He can still be somewhat serviceable and I doubt Rangers give this kind of package without giving a contract back. Nemeth coming our way is more than fair.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 46
        #5
        v5 Minnesota GM
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2022
        Messages: 8,122
        Mentions "j'aime": 4,685
        Most of these are fair, a few that aren't though. If you like I can elaborate
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 51
        #6
        Démarrer sujet
        Juraj Slapshotsky
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2020
        Messages: 1,133
        Mentions "j'aime": 583
        Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
        Most of these are fair, a few that aren't though. If you like I can elaborate


        Go ahead smile
        DucharmetheDOMinator a aimé ceci.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 56
        #7
        Sabres are elite
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: juin 2017
        Messages: 7,995
        Mentions "j'aime": 3,305
        Do not expect Chiarot to get more than a late 1st, even with 75% retention. He is not as good as all the Montreal fans are pumping him up to be. Kulak is far from worth a 3rd
        mokumboi a aimé ceci.
        19 févr. 2022 à 21 h 57
        #8
        v5 Minnesota GM
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2022
        Messages: 8,122
        Mentions "j'aime": 4,685
        Quoting: Tarlam01
        Go ahead smile


        Chiarot trade is fair.
        Lehkonen gets more or else Habs keep him, lehky is the perfect player for every lineup, therefore hughes only trades him for 1st + 3rd. Nemeth costs a 2md to dump, therefore you should take out the 3rd, and add lundqvist and kravtsov and give the rangers a 3rd to make it more fair.

        Kulak trade is fair.
        I don't know about the Detroit player, I can't elaborate.

        Petry retention should be taken off, and habs not interested in LD, maybe poulin + maniscalo + 2nd is more fair. For petry without retention.

        Vlasic costs a 1st + 2nd to dump, and Hoffman gets 2nd + 3rd. So 1st + 2nd + weissblatt + vlasic is fair.

        Paquette doesn't return anything
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 1
        #9
        Go Habs Go
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: mars 2017
        Messages: 10,667
        Mentions "j'aime": 4,092
        Quoting: Tarlam01
        Tbh I couldn't care less about a 2.5m dman for a couple of years. He can still be somewhat serviceable and I doubt Rangers give this kind of package without giving a contract back. Nemeth coming our way is more than fair.


        Lehkonen can bring back similar value without that element though, which is why it's a pass. Taking on Nemeth is fine, as long as he isn't used to block development at LD. (Which all of Bergevin's coaches were guilty of to some extent.) It's just not necessary unless the return is significantly higher than what we could get elsewhere.
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 3
        #10
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: juill. 2019
        Messages: 14,042
        Mentions "j'aime": 5,158
        The Reserve List & RFA contracts are all unrealistic …
        Taking Vlasic is like THE WORSE idea
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 7
        #11
        mokumboi
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: avr. 2019
        Messages: 29,691
        Mentions "j'aime": 11,484
        Quoting: Tarlam01
        He's currently injured but may play tomorrow. Blues does have a hole on their left side and a 1m Chiarot comes in really handy. It is an overpay but Chiarot is the type of defensemen that gets you through playoffs with his physicality. David Savard last year got pretty much the same return even though he was actually more costly in terms of $. To have watched them both play this year I can tell you right now that Chiarot is indeed a more useful defensemen than Savard. Remember that teams do overpay at the TDL even if it's not the pure value of a player


        Oi vey... so much just plain wrong here.

        - The Blues want a 1st pairing guy, not a wildly overrated trash rental when there are so many better options out there.
        - Chiarot has been utter trash this season.
        - Savard's return was a 1st and a 3rd, not a 1st and a 1st rounder who has only grown in value since being picked. Not the same at all.
        - Savard, who has a better portfolio than Chiarot, was traded in a seller's market. This year is a big buyer's market.
        - The Savard trade was a bad trade. Everyone knows this. You can't pick a terrible value trade and pretend that is the gospel of all gospel comps.

        Besides, Army does NOT have out 1sts for rentals, and certainly not for trash rentals. This is no secret.


        Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
        Chiarot trade is fair.


        You simply cannot be serious. And yet you definitely are. Get real, bro, that;s not even remotely close. Chiarot is not worth either of those pieces, let alone both.

        Good grief already with this nonsense.
        Aidian1 a aimé ceci.
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 9
        #12
        v5 Minnesota GM
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2022
        Messages: 8,122
        Mentions "j'aime": 4,685
        Quoting: mokumboi
        Oi vey... so much just plain wrong here.

        - The Blues want a 1st pairing guy, not a wildly overrated trash rental when there are so many better options out there.
        - Chiarot has been utter trash this season.
        - Savard's return was a 1st and a 3rd, not a 1st and a 1st rounder who has only grown in value since being picked. Not the same at all.
        - Savard, who has a better portfolio than Chiarot, was traded in a seller's market. This year is a big buyer's market.
        - The Savard trade was a bad trade. Everyone knows this. You can't pick a terrible value trade and pretend that is the gospel of all gospel comps.

        Besides, Army does NOT have out 1sts for rentals, and certainly not for trash rentals. This is no secret.




        You simply cannot be serious. And yet you definitely are. Get real, bro, that;s not even remotely close. Chiarot is not worth either of those pieces, let alone both.

        Good grief already with this nonsense.


        Chiarot is WORTH 2nd + 4th
        He will GET 1st + 3rd
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 11
        #13
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: déc. 2017
        Messages: 21,890
        Mentions "j'aime": 12,147
        I have no idea if Detroit would trade Van Pottelberghe but he was a Holland pick so I doubt Yzerman is to attached to him. You can at least give Detroit a 4th for him.
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 17
        #14
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: janv. 2022
        Messages: 3,117
        Mentions "j'aime": 1,498
        There is literally an article about how Doug Armstrong doesn't want to go after a high price rental on the Athletic. In that same article it says they will have contacts with other GM about players but probably won't go for them unless the prices drop.
        19 févr. 2022 à 22 h 21
        #15
        mokumboi
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: avr. 2019
        Messages: 29,691
        Mentions "j'aime": 11,484
        Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
        Chiarot is WORTH 2nd + 4th
        He will GET 1st + 3rd


        First of all, HILARIOUS. Secondly, the above trade, which you called fair, is waaay above a 1st and a 3rd.

        And I don;t care what he'll get (which will NOT be a 1st & a 3rd, mind you), he ain't getting it from the Blues.
        Aidian1 et Skyraider112 a aimé ceci.
        20 févr. 2022 à 0 h 3
        #16
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: sept. 2020
        Messages: 5,590
        Mentions "j'aime": 3,002
        Quoting: aedoran
        I have no idea if Detroit would trade Van Pottelberghe but he was a Holland pick so I doubt Yzerman is to attached to him. You can at least give Detroit a 4th for him.


        Joren's agent has said that there's been interest from Detroit in signing him for next season. If that info is accurate then I don't think they'll trade him, he's been playing well this season.
        aedoran a aimé ceci.
        20 févr. 2022 à 0 h 47
        #17
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: déc. 2017
        Messages: 21,890
        Mentions "j'aime": 12,147
        Quoting: Billy12Bob
        Joren's agent has said that there's been interest from Detroit in signing him for next season. If that info is accurate then I don't think they'll trade him, he's been playing well this season.


        That's good to know. Thanks!
        20 févr. 2022 à 0 h 50
        #18
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: juill. 2021
        Messages: 251
        Mentions "j'aime": 39
        Stop with the Chiarot hilarity PLEASE. lol it's actually become a joke amongst most active viewers... especially MONTRÉAL fans. You can find them everywhere laughing about trading the God tier defenseman Chiarot for a 1st. MONTRÉAL fans know it's ridiculous...
        mokumboi a aimé ceci.
        21 févr. 2022 à 15 h 17
        #19
        mokumboi
        Avatar de l'utilisateur
        Rejoint: avr. 2019
        Messages: 29,691
        Mentions "j'aime": 11,484
        Quoting: Aidian1
        Stop with the Chiarot hilarity PLEASE. lol it's actually become a joke amongst most active viewers... especially MONTRÉAL fans. You can find them everywhere laughing about trading the God tier defenseman Chiarot for a 1st. MONTRÉAL fans know it's ridiculous...


        I_Am_Legend_2007_Movie_Poster8541c780b61b2609.jpg
        Aidian1 a aimé ceci.
         
        Répondre
        To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
        Question:
        Options:
        Ajouter une option
        Soumettre le sondage