You grossly overvalue Mittelstadt, Scheifele would start with Cozens not what you're offering. This doesn't even get you Scheifele let alone adding DeMelo on top of it.

That's a lowball offer for Gudas

It's a top 5 pick plus all that. You're insane. Mittelstadt isn't even the top piece.

Why would you want 2 years of Scheifele? you are at least 3 years away from competing right now

He'd sign an extension.

The 1st is a nice piece. Rather fewer parts moving though and make the player better. No need for the Jets to add DeMelo.

Scheifele -> Buff 1st and a top young forward (Cousins?)

Why would he do that?

Why not just draft a Scheifele caliber player in this stacked 2022 draft with your top 5 pick? Or next year in that stacked draft? You are banking a lot here on a player well outside your window of compete

Scheifele can walk after just 2 seasons
No team is giving up more for him unless there’s a contract extension agreed upon
Too risky to even give up this much imo

ONLY if he’s agreeing to sign an extension with us though
And even then, probably not our Top5 pick AND Cousins
I think u could have one of those pieces,
and then we’d be willing to add others obviously

Why would u guys wanna trade him though?

MAYBE he would
Pretty risky move…. but I’d be open to it

Are the Jets trying to trade him??

We wouldn't trade for him if there wasn't assurance that he'd be interested in signing an extension. His hometown is close to Buffalo.

Because there is no guarantee the pick even comes close to being a ppg top center. Would you rather roll with the mystery box that could be a top center or the top center? I usually wouldn't want the team to trade a top pick, but getting a top center is the exception.

How could you have assurance? He literally can't sign an extension until the summer of 2023. Kitchener is across the boarder...

And what's the guarantee that Scheifele stays a PPG center at age 31+? Yes for a team that is no where close to contending you should 100% go with the mystery box over the aging vet. If you can't draft that center in 2 stacked drafts that's on your counting team

Buffalo don't trade 1st

I feel like the odds are better of landing someone like Ehlers from the Jets rather than Scheifele

What do you mean? You don't think teams know that a player is likely to sign an extension with them before trading for them? It happens all the time. Like with Mark Stone.

Kitchener is literally 2 hours away from Buffalo. It's the closest team to his hometown outside of Toronto. Being close to home is the big reason why Skinner waived to come here.

What makes you think he's gonna decline heavily after 31? Joe Thornton played at a top level way into his 30s. Same with Bergeron, Backstrom, and Kopitar.

Top line centers are incredibly hard to get. It's not as easy as you think. If it was that easy then every team would have one.

Thornton's production did fall off post 30, he had 1 ppg+ season. And he was considered a franchise talent, being one of like 5 players in the last 20 years to reach 120 points.

Kopitar Backstrom, and Bergeron all have more elements to their game than just offense. They are all widely considered excellent 2-way centers. Scheifele does not have that.

Lastly you literally arent even allowed to discuss contract extension s until 1 year before the contract ends. So no you would have no way of knowing if he wants to stay there or not. My guess is Scheifele would much rather chase a cup with a good team

I don't think fall off is the right word for Thornton. He was .9 PPG from 30-37. That's still great production.

It's just 4 random top line centers I picked. I could name more that have still produced at a top level into their 30s. Pavelski is another for example. Just because a guy isn't sound defensively doesn't mean they are going to completely fall off the face of the earth when they enter their 30s. Elite centers usually age well.

Right. All teams follow protocol and there are no backdoor talks about whether a player would sign an extension with the team. No team would ever know if a player is interested in staying on the team long term. No way

I understand your POV I just don't think you understand mine. It will be at least 3 years before Buffalo is competing for a playoff spot again and at least 5 before they are potentially contenders. 2 years ago I may have said differently but the parity that was in the league for so long has clearly gone away. Adding a PPG center like him just makes you less crap, not good. I just don't see how adding a player like Scheifele helps the team at all right now. You had Eichel and Reinhart the last few years and that didn't change anything. My POV is you should be a buyer when you are actually over the hill of rebuilding. Don't try and rush things

The narrative around the Jets is that the mix is wrong. They are less than the sum of their parts. IF the Jets decide to change the culture of the team the biggest piece they could move is Scheifele A ppg #1C on a fantastic contract with term. Trading him instantly changes the makeup of the roster and hands the reigns over to the next core - Connor, Dubois, Ehlers, Perfetti.

The return would have to be BIG though.