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The next trades

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 févr. 2022
Publié: 14 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I think values are somewhat fair according to many analyst. Only ones I think i may be overpaying are the Leafs trade and the Rangers trade. Habs could add a better pick for the Leafs ones and maybe a lower level prospect for the Rangers one
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
There would have to be a contract coming back. No clue who that would be. Wouldnt need to be Scandella as the Blue would need to add value for that.
STL
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Prior to a Klingberg trade
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (DET)
6.
MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Nemeth, Patrik
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi (1 150 000 $ retained)
7.
MTL
  1. Novak, Pavel [Liste de réserve]
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
8.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
9.
MTL
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Ritchie, Nick
Détails additionnels:
Nylander is somehow unwanted (legit 3rd best player) so they switch him out with grit
TOR
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Stapley, Brett [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $61 219 007 $597 561 $1 475 000 $20 280 993 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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917 831 $917 831 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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761 250 $761 250 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 7
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You don't REALLY think that William Nylander is only worth Josh Anderson, Brett Stapley and a third, do you?
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 8
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Dallas St. Louis New York Nashville Edmonton all decline
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You don't REALLY think that William Nylander is only worth Josh Anderson, Brett Stapley and a third, do you?


Oh god no, but Habs for some reason love him and the Leafs are prone to being stupid and trading for Grit. Realistically, id throw a 2nd and Guhle to that trade.
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14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 10
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Every team says thanks but no thanks
Not paying those prices for those players.
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14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 11
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Dallas St. Louis New York Nashville Edmonton all decline


Nashville is the only one probably to decline. The rest are what their market values are and the EDM trade is a straight swap for someone both teams need and theyve got the same value (nearly 0)
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 12
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Nashville is the only one probably to decline. The rest are what their market values are and the EDM trade is a straight swap for someone both teams need and theyve got the same value (nearly 0)


Edmonton doesn’t need a pp specialist
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Nashville is the only one probably to decline. The rest are what their market values are and the EDM trade is a straight swap for someone both teams need and theyve got the same value (nearly 0)


Toronto would block you harder than theyre blocking us from the post season.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Every team says thanks but no thanks
Not paying those prices for those players.


Just because YOU dont think these players are valued at that doesnt mean the MARKET wont either. 12 teams already are willing to give a 1st for Chiarot. Lehkoken is going for a 1st at minimum. Petry still has good value to GMs because they dont just look at the previous 40 games.
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 15
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Toronto would block you harder than theyre blocking us from the post season.


Youd be surprised. They arent called the Laffs for nothing. Dubas is on his hotseat and if they dont win a series, he;ll be canned. Thats when GMs tend to make stupid trades
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 17
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Youd be surprised. They arent called the Laffs for nothing. Dubas is on his hotseat and if they dont win a series, he;ll be canned. Thats when GMs tend to make stupid trades


No, trading one of their best prospects AND A FIRST (assuming they pay the 2nd + 3rd to offload richie, which we dont even need the 3rd there) is a recipe for him being canned
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 18
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Blues say no make the first a second and add Scandella and maybe it works
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 19
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Blues say no make the first a second and add Scandella and maybe it works


Chiarot has 12 teams willing to give a 1st for him. So it starts at a 1st and im willing to bet the Blues are among one of those teams
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Nashville is the only one probably to decline. The rest are what their market values are and the EDM trade is a straight swap for someone both teams need and theyve got the same value (nearly 0)


The Edmonton one maybe, I don't know if they are interested in a trade like that.

No other team is paying those prices, you say that's market value. You added to the rumoured asking price on each trade. Way more on some.
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 23
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No, trading one of their best prospects AND A FIRST (assuming they pay the 2nd + 3rd to offload richie, which we dont even need the 3rd there) is a recipe for him being canned


Nylander is 25. Leafs get 4 million is cap saving, a forward who knows how to play playoff hockey for a player frankly the leafs have too many of. Skilled forwards. I could really see a Nylander, Ricthie for Anderson, Guhle and 2nd or 3rd rounder
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Chiarot has 12 teams willing to give a 1st for him. So it starts at a 1st and im willing to bet the Blues are among one of those teams


Just because 12 teams are interested in s player does not mean 12 teams are willing to give a first for him. I bet if any of those teams offered a first already they would have taken it. He might get a first, maybe, probably need a not so friendly contact coming back.
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The Edmonton one maybe, I don't know if they are interested in a trade like that.

No other team is paying those prices, you say that's market value. You added to the rumoured asking price on each trade. Way more on some.


Yes thats because teams have already called the Habs on the reported market value. Thats called a bidding war, and teams give up more than market value in a bidding war. Habs have gotten multiple teams call for all of our 'Tradeable players'.
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 26
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Yes thats because teams have already called the Habs on the reported market value. Thats called a bidding war, and teams give up more than market value in a bidding war. Habs have gotten multiple teams call for all of our 'Tradeable players'.


Ok whatever you think man. Don't cry when it doesn't happen how you think.
14 févr. 2022 à 20 h 28
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Nylander is 25. Leafs get 4 million is cap saving, a forward who knows how to play playoff hockey for a player frankly the leafs have too many of. Skilled forwards. I could really see a Nylander, Ricthie for Anderson, Guhle and 2nd or 3rd rounder


Nylander is a PPG player who also performs well in playoffs. He is not the problem. If you want to talk about Marner and Playoffs, Dubas would still get fired/the trade would get vetoed on the spot by upper management.

Meanwhile Anderson, while he does have size and speed, he is very inconsistent and doesnt produce like Nylander. Stapley is a 7th rounder, not much value there. The only thing they win here is Anderson's looks (top 5 player in the league for hottness).
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Chiarot has 12 teams willing to give a 1st for him. So it starts at a 1st and im willing to bet the Blues are among one of those teams


How much ill bet $100 that he doesnt get traded to the blues for a first. DA just doesnt give up firsts for him. maybe a first for him retained and taking scandella back yes but straight up no way in hell
14 févr. 2022 à 22 h 32
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Just because YOU dont think these players are valued at that doesnt mean the MARKET wont either. 12 teams already are willing to give a 1st for Chiarot.


Quoting: JeffGorton
Chiarot has 12 teams willing to give a 1st for him.


This is exactly why I react so violently to the kind of nonsense that agitators (because that's all they are, they aren't reporters) purvey. Elliotte Friedman says that "12 teams have interest in Chiarot" (because no one can ever prove him wrong) and people automatically translate that into "12 teams are willing to pay a first-round pick for Chiarot." It's obscene.
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Nylander is a PPG player who also performs well in playoffs. He is not the problem. If you want to talk about Marner and Playoffs, Dubas would still get fired/the trade would get vetoed on the spot by upper management.

Meanwhile Anderson, while he does have size and speed, he is very inconsistent and doesnt produce like Nylander. Stapley is a 7th rounder, not much value there. The only thing they win here is Anderson's looks (top 5 player in the league for hottness).


Trick Question: Who has the lowest trade value to any team in the NHL:

Marc-Edouard Vlasic

Jeff Skinner

Brett Stapley

Other?

Answer: Brett Stapley, who is a seventh-round pick and becomes a free agent on August 15.
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