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Créé par: Aussie_Blackhawk
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2022
Publié: 13 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Toews comes back, its a bonus.
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Zacha, Pavel
Détails additionnels:
Do you feel we need to add?
2.
CHI
  1. Pajuniemi, Lauri
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
If we can't get a 2nd round pick.
NYR
  1. De Haan, Calvin (2 275 000 $ retained)
3.
CHI
  1. Légaré, Nathan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Wanting feedback from PIT on this one. Gauge if this is worth consideration.
PIT
  1. Beaudin, Nicolas
  2. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
4.
CHI
  1. Kempný, Michal
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
5.
CHI
  1. Dickinson, Jason
Détails additionnels:
Hear me out before you bite, this is a cap move to give more freedom to the Canucks to pursue other moves. The alternative is we trade Carpy for a 5th to a playoff team
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $57 707 964 $452 439 $2 730 000 $23 792 036 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 22
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The Penguins are slammed up against the cap and management has said that they aren't interested in trading away early picks and top prospects, so I don't think the MAF trade is feasible, but I wouldn't mind getting him back.
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13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 36
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Quoting: Haymaker26
The Penguins are slammed up against the cap and management has said that they aren't interested in trading away early picks and top prospects, so I don't think the MAF trade is feasible, but I wouldn't mind getting him back.


Thats fair, we could take back cap to help. Beaudin was to help offset the loss of Legare.
13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 40
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If I'm going to be honest the Penguins goaltending situation is quite alright. Jarry has been playing out of his mind and in my biased opinion he is one of the best goalies in the league. I wouldn't mind moving prospects like Legare but for a goalie (even if its MAF) I'd have to pass.
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13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 45
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If I'm going to be honest the Penguins goaltending situation is quite alright. Jarry has been playing out of his mind and in my biased opinion he is one of the best goalies in the league. I wouldn't mind moving prospects like Legare but for a goalie (even if its MAF) I'd have to pass.


Thanks for the feedback. Would there be a package you would be prepared to pay for MAF? Would be good to have him in case Jarry doesn't turn up in the playoffs?
13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 54
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1-0 them
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I feel like there could be a better offer from other teams
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13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 58
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
I feel like there could be a better offer from other teams


Valid, what would take this over the edge? Both may benefit from change of scenery.
13 févr. 2022 à 20 h 59
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
Valid, what would take this over the edge? Both may benefit from change of scenery.


I really don’t know lol
13 févr. 2022 à 21 h 1
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PDG over PDO
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I think NJ adds tbh
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13 févr. 2022 à 21 h 12
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I think NJ adds tbh


What do you feel is a fair add?
13 févr. 2022 à 21 h 26
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
What do you feel is a fair add?


I am guessing Nj adds their 2nd and it should be good imho
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13 févr. 2022 à 22 h 2
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I am guessing Nj adds their 2nd and it should be good imho


TBH I think thats a little bit of an overpay, though I appreciate the feedback.
13 févr. 2022 à 22 h 5
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PDG over PDO
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TBH I think thats a little bit of an overpay, though I appreciate the feedback.


It could be because I don't see Zacha as valuable as some to me he is a top 9 player and that's all imho
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13 févr. 2022 à 22 h 9
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It could be because I don't see Zacha as valuable as some to me he is a top 9 player and that's all imho


thats fair. I rate Kubalik quite highly so can understand your POV.
13 févr. 2022 à 22 h 55
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
Thats fair, we could take back cap to help. Beaudin was to help offset the loss of Legare.


The issue is the pens literally have zero space, it doesn't matter if you retain or not unless equal salary is coming back. That said, I don't know what the Pens would be willing to move to free up the space in return for MAF, or what the Hawks would actually want.

As someone pointed out the goalie situation is pretty ok, but if the Pens do make a move it will be for someone like Halak or Holtby with DeSmith going the other way.
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13 févr. 2022 à 23 h 31
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The issue is the pens literally have zero space, it doesn't matter if you retain or not unless equal salary is coming back. That said, I don't know what the Pens would be willing to move to free up the space in return for MAF, or what the Hawks would actually want.

As someone pointed out the goalie situation is pretty ok, but if the Pens do make a move it will be for someone like Halak or Holtby with DeSmith going the other way.


Would adding Shaw (LTIR) allow this sort of a move do you know? Or is the accrued salary too minimal to effect at this stage of the season?
14 févr. 2022 à 8 h 45
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Devils wouldn't do this.
Lateral move at best for a significantly worse contract.
Plus, Devils are trying to lose middle six forwards, not swapping one for another.
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14 févr. 2022 à 9 h 3
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Eh, not a big fan of the Caps trade. It's not bad considering we lose Kempny, but it would mean we have to send down someone that we shouldn't. Maybe the cap space is worth it, just don't want to potentially lose Irwin to waivers.
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14 févr. 2022 à 11 h 30
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Would adding Shaw (LTIR) allow this sort of a move do you know? Or is the accrued salary too minimal to effect at this stage of the season?


Too minimal. Pens need to free space up even with accrued since it's all still relative.
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