No from the flames I'd think , coronato is gonna be a real good player

And then Dvorak plays 3rd line LW? That would be funny to see after what they paid to get him.

I think Toffoli makes sense for the Flames but I'd be interested to see how willing they would be to part with Coronato. I mean, they are in win mode right now so I don't see it being horrible.

Also, does Montreal really want a RW prospect with Gallagher, Caufield, and Anderson signed for so long?

Every player is going to be a really good player, until they aren't.

As I mentioned, this would open up Dvorak to be traded. Friedman and Marek said a few western teams are interested so a trade like this would mean Dvorak would get traded.

I figure they would be more open to trade Coronato than Pelletier. By all accounts, Pelletier is off limits and I prefer coronato over Zary personally.

As for the logjam on the right side in Montreal, I think Gallagher eventually moves on and coronato is 2 years away at least

So Montreal pays for Dvorak for 1 season, then sells him off for a cheaper price than they got him for so that they can pickup 1 year of Monahan to replace him? I don't know how good that'll make management look to the fans or the players.

Agreed on Pelletier.

Gallagher just signed a 6 year deal for the team that he has played for his whole career. A real fan-favorite, and a pest to other teams. Not sure what would give you the intention that he moves on

I didn’t propose any trade for Dvorak so I don’t know why you’re saying it’ll be for less than what we acquired him for. All I said is that he would get traded. Also keep in mind it was a different management group that acquired him.

As for Gallagher, coronato needing a spot is 2 years away at the least. That is an eternity…a lot could happen in2 years and also does Gallagher want to part of a rebuild?? I’m not so convinced that he does. When he signed that deal, we were not in the position we are in now

Do you think the value has gone up since the trade? Or remained the same? Anyone can see he'd be traded for less.

If you think that Gallagher is going to waive his NTC-NMC or that Montreal is going to trade him in the next 2 years, you would be delusional. Fan-favorite and good presence.

Dvorak was traded for what essentially is a 28-30th overall pick and 2nd round pick in 2 more years. Maybe we don’t get exactly that but I think you can get close enough where it’s fine. Also the idea of holding on to a player just because you can’t get the value you paid for that player, is also bad management. What if he keeps losing value and in 2 years he is only worth a 7th round pick whereas now maybe you can cut your losses. So all this to say, you can see it both ways. At the end of the day, what we paid for him is irrelevant now. It’s done, we can’t take it back so you have to make the decision based on what’s right for your team NOW not based on what the trade was last year. Also keep in mind, trading Dvorak does open the door to bring in Monahan who could be traded at the deadline so you can recoup other assets that way and hope he rebounds next year in a new environment.

As for Gallagher, I have no idea. All I know is 2 years (which is the time for coronato to be ready) is a very long time during which a lot can happen and also, it wouldn’t be the first time a fan favorite gets traded. Happens all the time. And maybe if it’s not Gallagher, maybe it’s Anderson or Caufield who get tradedZ again, 2 years is a long time. And another scenario could be to trade coronato too. It’s about getting the best player of available and worrying about what happens 2 years from later

Have to put a value on guys , they aren't all equal

Yes.
You also have to identify the prospects you're most confident in and do your best to keep and develop them so they have a chance at being a contributor down the road.
You also have to weigh that potential against more immediate and obvious returns.
If you aren't trading good prospects because they "might be good, someday", then you're limiting yourself to lateral moves, which just isn't going to cut it the majority of the time.

Yeah which is why coronato which they drafted 14th overall and has looked great at Harvard as a freshman won't be moved to add a winger.

That's fine, but he's a long way away. Might be preferable to move him than someone else.

Toffoli isn't worth any of those 3 prospects. Reger to the Sam Reinhart trade

To be clear, I’m not saying he’s worth all 3. I’m saying he’s worth a 1st + coronato OR Zary. (Not Pelletier)

As for comparing to Sam Reinhart trade, you’re ignoring a few things. Sam returned a 1st and Devon Levi who is one of the better goalie prospects in the league. He’s in the same category as either Zary and coronato.

Second , Sam was in the last year of his contract at 5.2M
Toffoli has 2.5 years left at only 2.25M. At such a long cap hit for the player he is, the extra years are actually a bonus not a negative to his trade value.

If you want to say chiarot or Lehkonen are not worth a first, fine, I would agree. But Toffoli could easily bring in a 1st plus legit propsect. He’s 0.8PPG at 2.25 for 3 playoff runs. Leader and winner. It’s delusional to think he’s not worth that…Savard almost got that last year lol!!!!

And I strongly disagree, again refer to Sam Reinhart. Sam was an RFA not a UFA. Levi is a B+ prospect. Not a top 50 prospect

Right, and Toffoli is signed for 2 more seasons at a better cap hit and a far better one if 50% retained. I’d rather that.

Levi is good prospect. I guess we do see him differently. Zary and coronato while good prospects are not A+ prospects either. So when you consider Toffoli being had for half the cap hit, even if you think Zary, coronato are better than Levi, Toffoli does warrant a better prospect. It’s certainly in the ball park either way you look at Levi, and the 1st round pick is a lock. I don’t understand anyone who says he is not a 1st. Savard, Goodrow, Coleman were are for 1sts…Toffoli with more term and a cheap deal is easily worth it. And besides, we wouldn’t trade him for a 2nd. He’s too valuable for Suzuki and Caufield so if a trade happens, it’s because it was over the top

I find it very unlikely that Montreal would retain on Toffoli so I was ignoring the retention entirely. I agree that his price would go up with retention though but I just don't see retention as realistic.

Levi is a B to B+ prospect, Zary and Coronato are at least A- prospects.

Coleman was on a dirt cheap contract, I would say Lehkonen is more in line with what he got, or Connor Brown (at 50%).