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Créé par: Eastside1996

Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2022

Publié: 12 févr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Don’t hear me out, this is just my wish..

Trade with Pitt: the narrative around Myers and his 6mil aav has been far overblown as he’s been a bonafide top 4 d man this year. While he’s still over paid, based on this years performance, you won’t convince me that the pens are better with Marino opposed to myers. He’s a Burke type player especially when the playoffs come. Understandably, this is an unrealistic swap with how much money is exchanging hands.

Trade with NYR:
Still think this trade undervalues Miller, not a big fan of kravtsov but to move the entire cap hit for Miller without taking much back would be worth it if management is truly intrigued by kravtsov. With that said, I would rather othmann over kravtsov

Trade with Tampa:
There’s no reason for Tampa to trade Joseph. Not really sure what he would be worth even, but I love the profile and he would be getting a bigger opportunity with van. Van shouldn’t be trading picks, but these should be recouped with motte, halak trades at the deadline

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kapanen, Kasperi	4	4 000 000 $
DiPietro, Michael	2	925 000 $
Rathbone, Jack	2	950 000 $
Boeser, Brock	6	6 500 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu	3	2 250 000 $
Highmore, Matthew	2	1 000 000 $
Lammikko, Juho	2	950 000 $
Lockwood, William	2	850 000 $
Kravtsov, Vitali	1	1 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Miller, Colin		4	4 250 000 $
Martin, Spencer		2	1 250 000 $

Transactions

VAN

Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
Marino, John

PIT

Myers, Tyler
Pearson, Tanner
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

VAN

Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
Lundkvist, Nils
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)

NYR

Miller, J.T.

VAN

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

TOR

Schenn, Luke

VAN

Joseph, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]

TBL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

Rachats de contrats

Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
Travis Hamonic: 1 666 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	78 393 334 $	1 250 000 $	2 000 000 $	4 106 666 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD RFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Kapanen, Kasperi 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2		Kravtsov, Vitali 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
	Joseph, Mathieu 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Highmore, Matthew 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Lammikko, Juho 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AG UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Miller, Colin 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Rathbone, Jack 950 000 $950 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Martin, Spencer 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lockwood, William 850 000 $850 000 $ AD UFA - 1		Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Keeper, Brady 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1
Lundkvist, Nils 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2

12 févr. 2022 à 12 h 15

Mr_Gardoki

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You guys keep sending us Pearson, who's not only a major step down from Kapanen, but HE'S BEEN A PENGUIN before. He was such a bad fit in this system that was acquired and traded IN THE SAME SEASON.

This trade completely favors VAN and not the Pens. Pass.

EDIT: This trade also doesn't work financially for the Pens who have no space.

The only way this makes any sense is take out Pearson and put in Hoglander, then Retain $1M on Myers.

cooliny a aimé ceci.

12 févr. 2022 à 12 h 28

Boltsbeathabs

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I'd hate to see Joseph go. I think he pulls a Verhaeghe/Miller/Marchassault and given the time in the top 6 flourishes, but this would have to be considered heavily

Knuckl3s a aimé ceci.

12 févr. 2022 à 12 h 39

Knuckl3s

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Don't worry, some Canucks fans have no idea how the other teams rosters shake up valuewise

12 févr. 2022 à 12 h 42

Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

Don't worry, some Canucks fans have no idea how the other teams rosters shake up valuewise

It's not just VAN fans on that part. Too many people don't look at roster/cap situations. It's the value in this trade that makes little sense.

12 févr. 2022 à 13 h 32

Pensfan89

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You claim Myers is better than Marino…who are you trying to convince? Lol. If that was the case then you wouldn’t be trading him to us. Everybody knows that Marino is better than Myers in every way and Kapanen is better than Pearson. And the difference is much more than a 3rd. How about Matheson for EP40 half retained and a 3rd?

12 févr. 2022 à 13 h 36

Eastside1996

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Eastsidegorilla

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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Quoting: Pensfan89

I disagree. 5v5 numbers would back me up. I won’t even address the EP comment because there’s no comparable between the 2

12 févr. 2022 à 13 h 42

brgh4life

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Over the last 3 seasons Myers at 5v5 has a negative shot differential, scoring chance differential, high danger chance differential, goal differential, and expected goal differential. Marino is greater than 50% in all of those categories.
In that same time span Myers has 12 goals and 53 points. Marino has 10 goals and 57 points. Marino played 156 games to Myers 171. Marino is more effective defensively and offensively while being 1.6 mill cheaper and 8 years younger. Horrible trade

12 févr. 2022 à 13 h 52

Eastside1996

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Eastsidegorilla

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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Quoting: brgh4life

Did you happen to check the isolated numbers for this season? Or take into consideration the usage of each player. Or how about the “soft factors” with regard to the fact that myers hasn’t exactly played on a good team/good partner in a position where he could succeed? Or did you look at the numbers in the postseason? I’m not going to dispute in however long which player turns out to be better or who has the better contract. Simply put, I think myers could help the pens more than Marino this season/postseason. You can disagree and that’s fine

Knuckl3s a aimé ceci.

12 févr. 2022 à 13 h 58

Pensfan89

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Quoting: Eastside1996

I disagree. 5v5 numbers would back me up. I won’t even address the EP comment because there’s no comparable between the 2

http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=n&p1=8474574&p2=8478507&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

Not sure what 5 v 5 stats you’re looking at, but literally everything says Marino is better. I know you Canucks fans don’t live in the same universe as the rest of us and tend to be homers but y’all are really starting to challenge leafs and Habs fans for most delusional. No offense. I mean the first step to recovery is admission and until you do that there is no help. You Canucks fans wouldn’t be trading for Marino if you didn’t know he is better than your teams garbage lol

12 févr. 2022 à 14 h 12

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Eastside1996

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Eastsidegorilla

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Quoting: Pensfan89

Check the level of competition each guy plays against. Anyways, it’s a Pointless arguement cause the reality comes down to the fact that it’s my opinion that for this season I stand by my view. And on top of that, had you read the description you would’ve noticed that I said this was an unrealistic trade given the money exchanging hands so I’m gonna leave it at that

12 févr. 2022 à 14 h 15

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Knuckl3s

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Quoting: Pensfan89

Intelligent Canucks fans aren't homers

12 févr. 2022 à 15 h 29

#12

Dpellz90

I know more than you

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Yea no, if you want Marino and Kapanen, it's Boeser or Garland and more coming back the other way

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12 févr. 2022 à 15 h 33

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Dpellz90

I know more than you

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Quoting: Eastside1996

I disagree. 5v5 numbers would back me up. I won’t even address the EP comment because there’s no comparable between the 2

No they wouldn't lmao. Are you stupid?

Myers is still a negative impact player defensively and Marino isn't. It's pretty simple.

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12 févr. 2022 à 15 h 34

#14

Dpellz90

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Quoting: Eastside1996

Evolving hockey's isolated impact model accounts for quality of teammates and competition and Marino still blows Myers out of the water.

You tried.

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12 févr. 2022 à 18 h 53

#15

Pensfan89

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

Intelligent Canucks fans aren't homers

Sure the intelligent ones but those are hard to find it seems lol

12 févr. 2022 à 20 h 58

#16

Knuckl3s

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Quoting: Pensfan89

Sure the intelligent ones but those are hard to find it seems lol

Kind of, but we are here

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