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Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Équipe: 2021-22 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 8 févr. 2022
Publié: 8 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Habs want Roy, Lets make him part of the package to help Vegas with the cap situation.

Basically, we can eat the whole cap and you let us flip them, or we retain on them as part of a 3-way trade.

The package there is to flip them ourselves, but you get a retained Drouin and Allen. Gives you good replacement for the player - Drouin, won't count on the cap for another 6 weeks (should be back shortly after the TD)
Transactions
1.
VGK
  1. Allen, Jake (1 400 000 $ retained)
  2. Drouin, Jonathan (2 700 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
will retain some money on either Smith or Dadonov in a separate trade for assets. Or to let us flip them.

In exchange for a retained Drouin (with a year left after this at 2.7M

Retained Allen for Brossoit (so an upgrade at G, but cheaper)
MTL
  1. Brossoit, Laurent
  2. Dadonov, Evgeni
  3. Roy, Nicolas
  4. Smith, Reilly
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
The main piece here is Roy for the habs.
2.
VGK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Random team implicated in a Dadonov or Smith trade
NSH
    Retained Smith or Dadonov
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2181 500 000 $80 779 939 $285 772 $82 500 $720 061 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
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    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    725 000 $725 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 3
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    885 000 $885 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
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    8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    725 000 $725 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    791 667 $791 667 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    716 667 $716 667 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    C
    UFA - 1

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    8 févr. 2022 à 13 h 11
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    This is the closest I have seen to making something work, but there is no more taxi squad, and Hague won't be on IR forever
    8 févr. 2022 à 13 h 20
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    Quoting: User123409871234
    This is the closest I have seen to making something work, but there is no more taxi squad, and Hague won't be on IR forever


    You can probably stick it out with 21 players and moving some players like Miromanov down when Hague comes back.

    The cap should work by then. It's better than the cap penalties if you go over the cap!
    8 févr. 2022 à 13 h 23
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    You can probably stick it out with 21 players and moving some players like Miromanov down when Hague comes back.

    The cap should work by then. It's better than the cap penalties if you go over the cap!


    I have no idea what the cap penalties are, I thought that you quite literally just could not go over the cap, are any of the players on the roster waiver exempt though, I wouldn't think they are as they have been playing a lot.
    8 févr. 2022 à 13 h 47
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    Quoting: User123409871234
    This is the closest I have seen to making something work, but there is no more taxi squad, and Hague won't be on IR forever

    Closest to value yes but in reality there's too many moving pieces.
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    8 févr. 2022 à 14 h 9
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    Closest to value yes but in reality there's too many moving pieces.


    Well... they have to move 10M$ in the next 2 weeks. Its gonna require some ingenuity
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    I have no idea what the cap penalties are, I thought that you quite literally just could not go over the cap, are any of the players on the roster waiver exempt though, I wouldn't think they are as they have been playing a lot.


    Some of them surely are , Miromanov is Waivers Exempt
    8 févr. 2022 à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: User123409871234
    I have no idea what the cap penalties are, I thought that you quite literally just could not go over the cap, are any of the players on the roster waiver exempt though, I wouldn't think they are as they have been playing a lot.


    The simple answer is that you cannot go over the cap. That doesn't mean it isn't possible, only that there are measures to prevent most scenarios.
    If something does slip through those measures, it can result in hefty fines, draft pick forfeitures, and game forfeitures.
    Needless to say, teams are sufficiently incentivized to resolve those issues themselves. A team will move a player at a loss before they will allow their roster to be over limit.
    Occasionally injury issues will prevent a team from having the flexibility to ice a full lineup due to cap restraints, but putting more cap in the lineup than you are allowed could only really occur as the result of an oversight. Teams have to submit their lineup for approval prior to a game.

    The answer that matters here, is that Eichel can not be activated from the LTIR until there is sufficient cap room.
    That doesn't mean they can wait and keep him on IR however. Once a player is cleared, they have to remove them from IR.
    Attempting to keep him on IR longer would almost certainly result in cap circumvention. The consequences of which would likely be severe, given that Las Vegas was entirely aware of the situation and had/has plenty of time to achieve compliance.
    There is also grounds for Eichel to file a grievance if he chooses, (though I doubt that is likely given that he has a guaranteed $10M contract that he probably wouldn't get elsewhere at this time).

    Short answer: Eichel can't play until there is cap room, but if there isn't cap room by the time he is ready, there are consequences.
    8 févr. 2022 à 14 h 39
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    The simple answer is that you cannot go over the cap. That doesn't mean it isn't possible, only that there are measures to prevent most scenarios.
    If something does slip through those measures, it can result in hefty fines, draft pick forfeitures, and game forfeitures.
    Needless to say, teams are sufficiently incentivized to resolve those issues themselves. A team will move a player at a loss before they will allow their roster to be over limit.
    Occasionally injury issues will prevent a team from having the flexibility to ice a full lineup due to cap restraints, but putting more cap in the lineup than you are allowed could only really occur as the result of an oversight. Teams have to submit their lineup for approval prior to a game.

    The answer that matters here, is that Eichel can not be activated from the LTIR until there is sufficient cap room.
    That doesn't mean they can wait and keep him on IR however. Once a player is cleared, they have to remove them from IR.
    Attempting to keep him on IR longer would almost certainly result in cap circumvention. The consequences of which would likely be severe, given that Las Vegas was entirely aware of the situation and had/has plenty of time to achieve compliance.
    There is also grounds for Eichel to file a grievance if he chooses, (though I doubt that is likely given that he has a guaranteed $10M contract that he probably wouldn't get elsewhere at this time).

    Short answer: Eichel can't play until there is cap room, but if there isn't cap room by the time he is ready, there are consequences.


    Thank you, that is very good to know. So essentially, they probably need to make a move within about a week to clear cap space since he has been fully cleared for contact?
    8 févr. 2022 à 14 h 50
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    Thank you, that is very good to know. So essentially, they probably need to make a move within about a week to clear cap space since he has been fully cleared for contact?


    We don't have the exact timeline, but they have 3 games / 6 days where they can put Eichel on a conditioning stint in the AHL while keeping him on LTIR. That will likely be the precursor to him being "activated". Once you see that happen, they are on the clock.
    8 févr. 2022 à 17 h 56
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    Main piece here for 2 cap dumps is a super late 2nd and a 25 year old 4th liner. Its a 1st for Dadanov and a 2nd for Smith to dump their cap on the Habs
     
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