Easy no by the Canucks. It's gotta be Marino or it isn't happening

Question for the Canucks fans here. Why are there so many Marino trades here? Why of all defensemen is he the one that there are dozens of ACGMs for? He's a great young d-man, but there are a lot of guys you could go for. Why him specifically?

Well him being young is a big part of it but the main reason is that he could be a long-term partner for Hughes which is the Canucks biggest need

you're not getting Marino for that, I don't know why you are hell bent on thinking you will. For the exact reason that you want to trade for him.
It would be like asking you to give up Hughes for a bad return. You wouldn't do it, wo why are you expecting others to do it?
Marino is simply out of the question on any deal that isn't bringing back really great value.
Of which this isn't close to it and neither are trades for Boeser considering the horrible contract he was given, backloaded like all hell to give him ridiculous QO numbers, that not even VAN is happy about.

Did you really just compare Hughes to Marino lol also I have no idea why you're bringing up Boeser this is a Garland trade. I'm also hellbent on Marino because nothing else you have is worth trading any of our top 6 forwards for.

Yeah I am comparing Hughes to Marino. You can stop acting like one is so high and mighty over the other, he ain't. You just paid a lot more for him.
You just look at points and think you got some superior player. When your over paid defenseman gets 70 and 68% O zone starts compared to one that gets 47 and 39% O zone starts.
You over here thinking you struck gold. But fact is your guy is hidden out the D zone because he's horrible in it. Almost 70% O zone starts last year and was a -24. I can't even believe you think that spells superior defenseman based on a few points.
Meanwhile, Marino is heaped the burden of every difficult defensive start in PIT and holds his own while moving the puck up ice.
So yes, I'll make that comparison every day.

And Boeser because of the mountain of posts on here with him being thrown into some deal with Marino as if that's suppose to be some great offer for PIT, it's not.

Lol of course you're bringing up last year's plus/minus (which is a garbage stat anyways). O zone starts is also a terrible stat because it doesn't account for on the fly starts which makes up the majority of starts. So the difference between 68% and 39% isn't as big as you're trying to insinuate it is. He was absolutely horrible defensively last year. But that's not the case anymore he's completely fixed his defensive issues with scrubs as d partners and is even killing penalties under Boudreau now.

A. yes +/- is a garbage stat. but it doesn't hid the fact when guys are bleeding goals on the ice and losing while they are out there. There is no hiding that about it. Considering it's the defenseman who are to prevent things like that from happening....

B. No Zone starts are not a bad stat. It's nice of you to try to go with that, but you can directly correlate that state with points all across the league for the obvious point of it shows where guys are deployed on the ice and how and it really does show their role on a team.
Players who are hidden have high offensive zone starts. You can directly correlate that stat with say, Bergeron aging and losing his legs. How he went from a top shut down center to a guy who primarily gets O zone starts because they can't run him up and down the ice anymore. Not knocking his production in the Ozone one bit, but it's clear the obvious attempt to save his legs.
I know it's hard for you to admit that guys getting O zone starts help in their point production but it's very true. Much like it's true that Quinn being put in every hard start in his own D zone would drastically effect his play and numbers and would expose him.
Lets not pretend it doesn't matter while you are over here trying to knock a guy who gets primary defensive zone deployment for not "getting points" to the same rate while claiming that is what makes someone a better defenseman. That's just bs and anyone with hockey sense knows that. Fact is Marino plays a role Quinn can not because he's a very good Defenseman every bit as good as Quinn some my argue better due to his ability to play his own zone. Something Quinn is not particularly good at.

Forsberg ( max retained ) Sanford ( max retained ) Watson ( max retained ) for Teddy Blueger and a 23' 3rd . It works to be a wash $ wise for this year