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If Hextall never went Rogue

Créé par: Mintyfresh
Équipe: 2021-22 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2022
Publié: 12 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Obviously some things would be a lot different and they eventually would probably have to trade someone like JVR, Konecny, or Saneheim to make cap room for Coots/Farabee long term deals next year, but thats too much too handle. This gives a good idea what the roster could've looked like. Still massive gaps in the defense under provy, makar pair. But like I said this just a good idea what the roster would've looked like before some moves would need to be made to keep a competitive roster.

Who knows if the Ghost/VorforAtkinson trades would've still happened, but I think they were reasonable trades that most GMs could see benfit in.

Its unreal how poorly Hextall trusted his staff and how poorly he worked with others. From Provy's development and how they treated him to ignoring his scouts about draft picks and trades. Is there probably a little more to it? I'm sure its not quite as terrible as it sounds, but some little threads of these stories have to be true and they add up to just an incredible debacle of roster management and thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

For the record, I dont believe the team below is like so leaps and bounds better that they are stanley cup champs, but the team below is certaintly better looking than the current roster. Also, there could've been more hindsight theories like what if we took Werenski instead of Provy and all that kind of stuff, but I remained realistic to the rumored deals/draft picks the team was interested in. And adjusted the team accordingly.
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PHI
  1. Makar, Cale
Détails additionnels:
Would have taken Makar over Patrick.
COL
2.
PHI
  1. Kupari, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
Kupari is showing a lot of promise and was taken 1 pick behind o'brien
LAK
  1. O'Brien, Jay [Liste de réserve]
3.
PHI
LAK
  1. Hayes, Kevin
Détails additionnels:
Kevin Hayes was never signed cuz we wouldn't have needed him especially if the O'reilly deal goes down.
4.
PHI
BUF
  1. Rubtsov, German
  2. Tuomaala, Samu
  3. York, Cam
Détails additionnels:
Pretend Rubtsov is Tage Thompson who was taken after the flyers pick, and was part of the O'reilly deal. If you look at that draft Hextall would've never taken Debrincat anyway so I don't consider that realistic like the other moves in this.

Hextall could've reasonably selected Tage, then like the Blues did give the Sabres a 2019 1, 2021 2nd, and 3 forwards (1 being tage and the other 2 being throw-aways who at this point aren't really on the flyers roster anymore.
5.
PHI
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
See above! ^^^
STL
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NSH
  1. Ellis, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
No Ellis deal at least the one that was made cuz there would've been no patrick involved on our end so I reverse that one.
7.
PHI
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. Rosén, Isak [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Get our 2021 1st back as well which turned into Rosen (when realistically with the roster below, most likely would've been a much later pick anyway
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12 janv. 2022 à 0 h 47
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The Philadelphia scout from Friedman's 32 Thoughts column said they were advocating for Heiskanen, not Makar.
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12 janv. 2022 à 0 h 51
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The Philadelphia scout from Friedman's 32 Thoughts column said they were advocating for Heiskanen, not Makar.


Clarke said it was Makar though


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12 janv. 2022 à 1 h 13
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Clarke said it was Makar though




11. Asked about Clarke’s comments, one scout laughed, “It was Heiskanen, not Makar. Close enough.”
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12 janv. 2022 à 1 h 19
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11. Asked about Clarke’s comments, one scout laughed, “It was Heiskanen, not Makar. Close enough.”


Apparently its both guys they wanted lul according to Clarke as a more in depth report came out and apparently he and 2 scouts wanted Makar while another scout wanted Heiskanen. Both were good so Clarke was fine with either but swayed more towards Makar. But Hextall went rogue

Either way Hextall really did **** em over lul
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12 janv. 2022 à 2 h 0
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11. Asked about Clarke’s comments, one scout laughed, “It was Heiskanen, not Makar. Close enough.”


Makar, Heiskanen.... Either one would be welcomed over Nolan Patrick
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12 janv. 2022 à 2 h 17
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Clarke said it was Makar though




He also said that Makar was taken with the next pick. That was Heiskanen. I think he got them mixed up.
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He also said that Makar was taken with the next pick. That was Heiskanen. I think he got them mixed up.


I mean I don't think Flyers fans are gonna get hung up on who. Whether is was Heiskanen or Makar... Flyers fans would rather have either. OBviously Makar is better, but Either way.
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13 janv. 2022 à 22 h 23
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I mean I don't think Flyers fans are gonna get hung up on who. Whether is was Heiskanen or Makar... Flyers fans would rather have either. OBviously Makar is better, but Either way.


There's a big difference between a generational defenseman and a very good franchise-level defenseman, but yeah Flyers fans would be much happier with either of them.
 
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