Not bad but I don't think Montreal will retain on Toffoli since he is already on a good contract

Pens say, No Thanks

Is Toffoli worth a 1st? Probably to some teams, but not the Pens. Plus, Hextall has made his 1sts off-limits and you'd HAVE to take Zucker back in that trade because the Pens have zero cap space.

No from Isles.

Bellows has the same amount of points as Hoffman in 5 less games.

In a small stretch Hoffman is 4X the players Bellows is. Before this year you guys weren’t sure if he was worth more than a 4th RD pick

Hoffman sucks lol - he’s one of the worst 5v5 players in the NHL. I wouldn’t even sign him to a league minimum deal.

The issue with Bellows is the isles tanked his value in the past by playing worse players over him. Lack of opportunity over a period of time decreases trade value. He still had top 6 potential.

This is a very unrealistic trade that makes 0 sense for the isles. Bellows has 7 pts in his last 7 games and you argue that they should trade a high pick and take on a worse player.

Because if Bellows hits UFA this summer he is getting 4.5M+ ? I don’t think so. Hoffman is not THAT bad at 5 on 5, we can compare Drouin & Hoffman since we got both & Hoffman isn’t that bad. Drouin is horse**** tho

Bellows is young + cost controlled - he’s already better than Hoffman. Montreal overpaid Hoffman based on his past production

4.5M isn’t that TBH. I rather have Hoffman than Drouin at 5.5M
I rather trade Toffoli and have Hoffman on my top 6
I rather have Hoffman at 4.5M than Gallagher at 6.5M

So he isn’t that bad, I hated the Hoffman signing because I don’t like the player. But he proved us he is really decent & not as bad as we expected. MTL have Dom Ducharme as a head coach, he should be coaching in the Q nothing higher than that

Ok but my point is why would the isles trade for Hoffman? Bellows has been great

Yes, but I don’t expect him to keep that pace. If he does, fine there’s no fit. But he is getting scratched again & the Isles wanna be competitive next year, I could see a fit. But Trotz probably want better two-way player so probably not the best trade. But je isn’t the GM lol

Every time Bellows has gotten into the lineup over the last 3 years he’s produced at a high rate. He’s also been good defensively. If the isles want to be competitive , they probably shouldn’t be trading a cheap 23 year old sniper for an overpaid 33 YO Hoffman who is a complete liability at even strength

Fair enough