Savoie can be something good this starting to be a suitable deal

I agree, would a second instead of the third push it through? I think it might be close…

Toffoli, Chiarot 50%, Norlinder vs Barrie, Savoie, Broberg and a 4th. Is it something good?

How about we take Norlinder out, and Broberg, and put Samorukov, and upgrade the pick to a second instead? Holland really likes Broberg… don’t see him trading him.

deal, so Toffoli Chiarot at 50% for Barrie, Savoie, Samorukov and a second rounder right?

Let's look at this proposal from the point of view of which players you've offered that you'd like to have on your team next year. I think that only Dvorak might -- MIGHT -- fit that description, as Hoffman is a one-dimensional player who hasn't produced in that dimension this year, Chiarot is a rental, and Allen is a completely ordinary back-up goaltender. Now let's look at the other side you've proposed. Bourgault, Holloway, Broberg and the first-round draft pick are all assets that Edmonton considers semi-essential elements of their future. So this trade is Dvorak -- a guy who does little more than move Nugent-Hopkins from #3C to #2LW -- for what the Oilers expect to be four first-line players, plus some window-dressing thrown in on each side. And by the way, I would evaluate Barrie as more valuable than Hoffman.

Bottom line: by any rational standard, this is a terrible trade for Edmonton.

I could understand but in a bidding warbfor key veteran for Playoff push this could be the asking price.

Correct! I believe it is a fair deal without us giving any of our top prospects. And it would be awesome if they resigned too, but we would have to see. It’s nice talking to you man! Some people are just rude, and instead of having a nice conversation about the trade, and how to fix it, they lash out at you, because they don’t agree.

I think this trade is good for both sides, especially if you guys choose to rebuild… have a good one man!

Yeah we all should workbagm like this. Happy new year!

Happy new year to you too!