Flames decline

edmonton wont trade derek ryan

bruins dont want armia. they need a top 4 left dman or a legit top 6 forward.

Its difficult to imagine the Oilers paying a 1st round pick for Chiarot. He may be worth the price, but Holland does not give up those kinds of assets unless he has term and control over the player he is getting in return. Extending Chiarot's contract doesn't look feasible, given that salary structure and limited cap space Edmonton has next year.

Rather just keep Lauko

Just checked out Chiarot's "rels", which compare him to his teammates.

CF% rel - negative every single year of his career
SF% rel - negative 6 of the last 7 seasons
GF% rel - negative last 3 seasons and 6 of 8
xGF% rel - negative 6 of last 7
SCF% rel - negative 7 of 8
HDCF% rel - negative 6 of 7

These are not good numbers, in fact they are quite bad. Worse, they're largely caused by poor defensive metrics - he allows more shots against than average of his teammates, he allows more goals against, more scoring chances and more high danger corsi. It isn't due to zone starts either, he generally gets about 50% offensive zone starts.

He had one good playoff run where the refs allowed him to hack and whack opponents at will, and Habs fans think he's suddenly a 1st pairing defenseman who is worth a whole ton. Genuinely he's a replacement level guy and has been his entire career.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=r&v=p&playerid=8475279

Actually, the results from the past 2 playoff runs are worse than his regular season results: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=3&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=r&v=p&playerid=8475279.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=r&v=p&playerid=8475279

I personally hate Chiarot and wouldn't want him on my team. Realistically he's probably a 4th or 5th defenseman but the truth is, trading him will return at least a 2nd round pick whether you like it or not and regardless of stats. It has been reported by Friedman and he's exactly the type of player GMs want at the deadline (because most GMs are idiots). Don't forget Savard got a 1st + last year.

Someone might do something stupid (it happens nearly every year at the deadline) but that doesn't change his actual value, which is what I was commenting on. Just because some idiot pays a 1st doesn't mean he's worth that.

Yeah for sure, i'm with you on that. I'd be happy to get basically anything but I'm making the trades based on what i think will happen, not what should happen.