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Kravtsov trade comp

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2021
Publié: 19 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
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1.
NYR
  1. 2022 3e round pick (OTT)
  2. 2023 4e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. 2022 6e round pick (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Comp would be the 2016 trade that send Maxim Letunov and a 6th to San Jose for a 3rd and a 4th.
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYR
NYR
STL
OTT
NYR
WPG
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $72 640 594 $0 $7 550 000 $8 859 406 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Strome, Ryan
4 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
NYR
McKegg, Greg
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Tinordi, Jarred
900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
NYR
Hájek, Libor
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1

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19 nov. 2021 à 8 h 45
#1
Jimbo1119
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comparing a former 2nd round pick to a #9OA? Don't think much of a comp there...in the end the market will determine Krav's worth...but if that meager return is all that's out there- he'll be playing an awful lot of KHL hockey.
19 nov. 2021 à 8 h 53
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Ottawa accepts.
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19 nov. 2021 à 10 h 6
#3
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Quoting: Jimbo1119
comparing a former 2nd round pick to a #9OA? Don't think much of a comp there...in the end the market will determine Krav's worth...but if that meager return is all that's out there- he'll be playing an awful lot of KHL hockey.


Where they were drafted really shouldn't matter at this point. Kravtsov was picked a little high. But thought it at the time as wel. He had been the buzzy prospect after a fantastic run in playoffs as 18-year old. And probably should have been selected in the 25-50 range.

If they had been shopping him for a 2nd, and found no takers, one would think a 3rd and 4th would be logical price, no?
19 nov. 2021 à 10 h 48
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Jimbo1119
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Where they were drafted really shouldn't matter at this point. Kravtsov was picked a little high. But thought it at the time as wel. He had been the buzzy prospect after a fantastic run in playoffs as 18-year old. And probably should have been selected in the 25-50 range.

If they had been shopping him for a 2nd, and found no takers, one would think a 3rd and 4th would be logical price, no?


But it does matter where they were drafted...you are correct in one sense- at a certain point the __ OA pick in any draft becomes another young prospect who needs to find his way. But the optics of a team giving up on a prospect are pretty bad. And the higher that prospect was picked makes the optics infinitely worse. And btw I believe most draft experts had him in the teens for his draft. This is why EDM didn't quickly give up on JP (who if they received a good offer would have probably moved a year or so ago). Krav's biggest problem is his maturity...not his talent. I'd expect that when he does grow up a bit he's going to be a pretty good NHL player...for the Rangers or someone else. But if Drury were to jettison him now for 2 picks...both with a historic low probability of amounting to anything at the NHL level...and then Krav becomes a top 6 fwd, let alone a star- Drury will be run out of town.
19 nov. 2021 à 10 h 57
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19 nov. 2021 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: Jimbo1119
But it does matter where they were drafted...you are correct in one sense- at a certain point the __ OA pick in any draft becomes another young prospect who needs to find his way. But the optics of a team giving up on a prospect are pretty bad. And the higher that prospect was picked makes the optics infinitely worse. And btw I believe most draft experts had him in the teens for his draft. This is why EDM didn't quickly give up on JP (who if they received a good offer would have probably moved a year or so ago). Krav's biggest problem is his maturity...not his talent. I'd expect that when he does grow up a bit he's going to be a pretty good NHL player...for the Rangers or someone else. But if Drury were to jettison him now for 2 picks...both with a historic low probability of amounting to anything at the NHL level...and then Krav becomes a top 6 fwd, let alone a star- Drury will be run out of town.


I fully get the optics part of it, but Drury has already taken most of those lumps. And it was Gorton that drafted him anyway. So I don’t think the PR hit will be that bad.

As for his #9 position, Kravtsov was the buzzy pick in that draft. He had moved from ~ 40/50 and B rating by central scouting before playoffs to around 15-22 and A-rating after playoffs. If a re-draft of those same players were done today, I think he goes in late 1st round or early 2nd round.
19 nov. 2021 à 11 h 18
#7
Jimbo1119
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I fully get the optics part of it, but Drury has already taken most of those lumps. And it was Gorton that drafted him anyway. So I don’t think the PR hit will be that bad.

As for his #9 position, Kravtsov was the buzzy pick in that draft. He had moved from ~ 40/50 and B rating by central scouting before playoffs to around 15-22 and A-rating after playoffs. If a re-draft of those same players were done today, I think he goes in late 1st round or early 2nd round.


About right on his draft assessment....my guess right now is Drury has put out a pretty high ask- but if offered a little better than the Lias trade he would cut losses and move on. Of course the Rangers being the Rangers- can never discount a foolish short sighted move- like making Kessel the main piece of a return!
 
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