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Lets Hope Scott Works Out

Créé par: buffdaddy
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Blues de St-Louis
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STL
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
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  1. Mikkola, Niko
  2. 2023 1e round pick (STL)
  3. 2022 5e round pick (STL)
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Saad, Brandon
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Barbashev, Ivan
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Thomas, Robert
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Tarasenko, Vladimir
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Kostin, Klim
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Bozak, Tyler
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Krug, Torey
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Faulk, Justin
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16 nov. 2021 à 15 h 15
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He will fs
16 nov. 2021 à 15 h 33
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Blues talk Montreal into taking Scandella back challenge
16 nov. 2021 à 16 h 5
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Blues talk Montreal into taking Scandella back challenge


Is Marco not doing well? I haven’t watched St-Louis once this year.
16 nov. 2021 à 16 h 18
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Uhh no. We are not doing this.


Quoting: Habs4ever
Is Marco not doing well? I haven’t watched St-Louis once this year.


He's had his ups and downs, but he's also become this year's official Blues fan scapegoat bash whether he has a good game or not. In other words, don;t take the bashing too seriously.
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16 nov. 2021 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Blues talk Montreal into taking Scandella back challenge


hahaha nahhh he's all yours now
16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 29
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Quoting: Habs4ever
Is Marco not doing well? I haven’t watched St-Louis once this year.


Quoting: mokumboi
Uhh no. We are not doing this.




He's had his ups and downs, but he's also become this year's official Blues fan scapegoat bash whether he has a good game or not. In other words, don;t take the bashing too seriously.


He definitely has been bad, Mokumboi just can't hear any criticism about Blues players. I'm not saying he's incapable of a good game here and there but am I speaking out of turn to say that you should be expecting more than that from a guy in your top four on a cup contending team? 43% GF% this year, which is right about his xGF% (and right around his expected percentage last year).

He's being tasked with the toughest matchups and he can't handle it. Not all players can. We need someone who can. We can't be paying a guy 3.25mil to play behind whoever that person is and Krug unless that person is Scott Perunovich. Ergo he has to go to make upgrades. That's all!
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16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 37
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
He definitely has been bad, Mokumboi just can't hear any criticism about Blues players. I'm not saying he's incapable of a good game here and there but am I speaking out of turn to say that you should be expecting more than that from a guy in your top four on a cup contending team? 43% GF% this year, which is right about his xGF% (and right around his expected percentage last year).

He's being tasked with the toughest matchups and he can't handle it. Not all players can. We need someone who can. We can't be paying a guy 3.25mil to play behind whoever that person is and Krug unless that person is Scott Perunovich. Ergo he has to go to make upgrades. That's all!



I criticize the players plenty. I've criticized Parayko (who has been worse than Scandella by a long way the last few games) a ton this week. I even criticized RobTom this week. and he's put up 7a in the last three games. And yes, I criticize Scandella when it's appropriate. I've also said Mikko should be next to Colt.

What I don't do is join in on catterwauling bash parties that ignore when the annual scapegoat pick isn't at fault or remove all positive context to make a player out like worthless trash or pretend like that things a player does very well aren't really that important because that would spoil my slanted narrative.
16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: mokumboi
I criticize the players plenty. I've criticized Parayko (who has been worse than Scandella by a long way the last few games) a ton this week. I even criticized RobTom this week. and he's put up 7a in the last three games. What I don't do is join in on catterwauling bash parties that ignore when the annual scapegoat pick isn't at fault or remove all positive context to make a player out like worthless trash or pretend like that things a player does very well aren't really that important because that would spoil my slanted narrative.


I'm not blaming it all on Scandella, we just had a big discussion about Barbashev where I also criticized Thomas and Tarasenko's performance, and also I was banging this Scandella drum long before this year, so is it a slanted narrative if I said he would be bad and then he is indeed bad? And if that is indeed a slanted narrative, why would I defend him when he had a good start to the season a few weeks back, including where I said he was performing well offensively? How does that fit into your narrative that I'm just scapgoating this guy without acknowledging his strengths? Parayko hasn't been good either but he has a track record of being better and he's underperforming his expecteds, unlike Scandella. I'm sorry for not recommending we try and move the guy who is signed for eight more years instead of the guy signed for two I guess? Like do you think Scandella has really been that good?

This is a trade where we are "upgrading" (I don't think much of Chiarot but nominally that is the intention) our defense. If you are trying to do that it makes sense to move Scandella for all the reasons I just said before- not only can we not afford to pay him if we are paying someone else but if he's on the third pair we have better options there.
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
I'm not blaming it all on Scandella, we just had a big discussion about Barbashev where I also criticized Thomas and Tarasenko's performance, and also I was banging this Scandella drum long before this year, so is it a slanted narrative if I said he would be bad and then he is indeed bad? And if that is indeed a slanted narrative, why would I defend him when he had a good start to the season a few weeks back, including where I said he was performing well offensively? How does that fit into your narrative that I'm just scapgoating this guy without acknowledging his strengths? Parayko hasn't been good either but he has a track record of being better and he's underperforming his expecteds, unlike Scandella. I'm sorry for not recommending we try and move the guy who is signed for eight more years instead of the guy signed for two I guess? Like do you think Scandella has really been that good?

This is a trade where we are "upgrading" (I don't think much of Chiarot but nominally that is the intention) our defense. If you are trying to do that it makes sense to move Scandella for all the reasons I just said before- not only can we not afford to pay him if we are paying someone else but if he's on the third pair we have better options there.



I have to run out now, so I don;t have time to read all this, but let me just say I was not talking about you making Scandella out like trash. That was more of a general comment on the habit of a not insignificant portion of Blues fans who do this every season. They pick one guy and all decide to bash him on the rocks whether it makes any sense or not. I just had to argue a bunch of supposed Blues fans who insisted Scandella was the only one to blame for a goal that he was not even on the ice for AND for a goal where he was nowhere near the breakdown. That's the kind of thing I was referring to. I criticize anyone plenty when it's right, including Scandella.

I'll get to the rest later if I remember.
 
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