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only way id be willing to give miller

Créé par: cooliny
Date de création initiale: aoû 26, 2021
Publié: 30 aoû à 20 h 02
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
we're probably losing a bit here too, but we get to sign long term for pettersson and hughes

incoming salty hab fans
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Hughes, Quinn88 250 000 $
Pettersson, Elias810 000 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Romanov, Alexander
  3. 2022 1e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 3e round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. Miller, J.T.
  2. Rathbone, Jack
Détails additionnels:
1st + 3rd + Evans = Miller (similar to pieces Canucks gave up for Miller originally)

Rathbone = Romanov (team needs, Podkolzin says yes)
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
VAN
MTL
WPG
ANA
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2023
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2024
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 929 826 $648 780 $3 187 500 $2 570 174 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
10 000 000 $
C
RFA - 3
VAN
Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
VAN
Garland, Conor
4 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
VAN
Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
VAN
Dickinson, Jason
2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
VAN
Motte, Tyler
1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
VAN
Sutter, Brandon
1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
825 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
8 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
VAN
Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
VAN
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
VAN
Poolman, Tucker
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
VAN
Halák, Jaroslav
1 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
VAN
Juolevi, Olli
750 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Highmore, Matthew
725 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Schenn, Luke
850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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30 aoû à 20 h 03
#1
KFTW
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I think Montreal needs to send more
30 aoû à 20 h 03
#2
Rejoint: avr 2019
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Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade. 1st and a top prospect is what I consider to be his value
PeterForsberg21 a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 04
#3
Démarrer sujet
Colin
Rejoint: nov 2020
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Quoting: csick
I think Montreal needs to send more


Quoting: TheAlien
Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade


1st and a 2nd probably then, and they're sending us their first and trash prospects
30 aoû à 20 h 07
#4
Habs 2010
Rejoint: mai 2020
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I think the trade is fair (you didn't undervalue Evans so good job).

But I wouldn't say Rathbone = Romanov... Romanov is a year younger, hits harder, defends better, and won WJC top D and runner up in his two experiences there.

I'd say the trade is probably fair value wise for MTL, but the habs are in no position to make this kind of move for Miller.... and I love Miller would really want him on the habs but MTL shouldn't offer that kind of package IMO.
cooliny a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 08
#5
Do I look nervous
Rejoint: jun 2021
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For Miller I’d want a first a second plus a prospect and I’d rather not trade away Rathbone for no reason
cooliny, PeterForsberg21 et csick a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 08
#6
Do I look nervous
Rejoint: jun 2021
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Quoting: Shanesaw9
I think the trade is fair (you didn't undervalue Evans so good job).

But I wouldn't say Rathbone = Romanov... Romanov is a year younger, hits harder, defends better, and won WJC top D and runner up in his two experiences there.

I'd say the trade is probably fair value wise for MTL, but the habs are in no position to make this kind of move for Miller.... and I love Miller would really want him on the habs but MTL shouldn't offer that kind of package IMO.


If they don’t match for KK this would be a very good deal for them
cooliny a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 08
#7
Rejoint: aoû 2021
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Romanov>>rathbone
csick a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 09
#8
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Colin
Rejoint: nov 2020
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
Romanov>>rathbone


I think the carryover from the Miller part of the deal suffices for the lack in value
30 aoû à 20 h 10
#9
PeterForsberg21
Rejoint: jan 2021
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VAN only considers moving Miller next year off season.
30 aoû à 20 h 11
#10
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Colin
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
VAN only considers moving Miller next year off season.


Value would be a bit less then since he would be a rental
30 aoû à 20 h 12
#11
PeterForsberg21
Rejoint: jan 2021
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Quoting: cooliny
Value would be a bit less then since he would be a rental


Benning has a burner on his ass to make the playoffs and they will need Miller in order to do that.
cooliny a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 20
#12
Rejoint: mai 2015
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You've confused matters adding the Romanov for Rathbone part. That's it's own conversation. Just get rid of it.

Once you get rid of it, it seems a little light but not crazy
30 aoû à 20 h 25
#13
STL V5 GM
Rejoint: nov 2020
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Quoting: TheAlien
Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade. 1st and a top prospect is what I consider to be his value


If leafs had cap space i would offer Amirov, 1st and 2nd

would you do it?
30 aoû à 20 h 28
#14
Rejoint: avr 2019
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Quoting: LGuy54
If leafs had cap space i would offer Amirov, 1st and 2nd

would you do it?


Yup as long as it's your 2022 1st
LGuy54 et cooliny a aimé ceci.
30 aoû à 20 h 30
#15
STL V5 GM
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Quoting: TheAlien
Yup as long as it's your 2022 1st


Sure!
30 aoû à 20 h 30
#16
Marchyyy
Rejoint: avr 2021
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Lol did you really say Rathbone=Romanov? Habs easily declines this…. They have to tank for Wright since they’re not going back to the finals with that ****ty center core (even if they get Miller)
They need a 2C and 3C
30 aoû à 20 h 40
#17
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Colin
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Quoting: Marchy
Lol did you really say Rathbone=Romanov? Habs easily declines this…. They have to tank for Wright since they’re not going back to the finals with that ****ty center core (even if they get Miller)
They need a 2C and 3C


keep dreaming 🤣
30 aoû à 21 h 14
#18
Rejoint: mai 2015
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Honestly remove Romanov and Rathbone and improve the 3rd to a 2nd and I'm pretty sure they'd accept.

Miller
for
Evans
2022 1st
2022 2nd
30 aoû à 21 h 16
#19
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Quoting: F50marco
Honestly remove Romanov and Rathbone and improve the 3rd to a 2nd and I'm pretty sure they'd accept.

Miller
for
Evans
2022 1st
2022 2nd


The Canucks aren't doing that tho. I'd want a 1st and a top prospect at least for Miller
30 aoû à 21 h 22
#20
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Quoting: TheAlien
The Canucks aren't doing that tho. I'd want a 1st and a top prospect at least for Miller


Just going on what OP originally offered. I'd rather keep Romanov vs Rathbone and simply up the draft pick quality for the difference in value between Romanov vs Rathbone. (IMO)
30 aoû à 22 h 26
#21
Marchyyy
Rejoint: avr 2021
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Quoting: cooliny
keep dreaming 🤣


K bud stay deluded
 
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