Rielly Resigns

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Appreciate this post. Goes to show why extending Rielly next year would be a mistake. They have no cap space

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26 août 2021 à 13 h 43

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I promise I don't mean this to troll because I know it will come off that way. Leafs fans on here continuously tout Rielly to be a true #1 who's one of the top dmen in the league. If what Leafs fans on here believe is true, $7.7 is likely a very low number.

26 août 2021 à 13 h 48

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7.7 low?? shame on the team who offers more lol

26 août 2021 à 13 h 50

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7.7 low?? shame on the team who offers more lol

The going rate for number 1 dmen is 8×9-9.5

26 août 2021 à 13 h 51

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Also islanders decline. Aho and a 5th is plenty for dermott, no need to flip a 2nd for a 3rd.

26 août 2021 à 13 h 53

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7.7 low?? shame on the team who offers more lol

I personally don't think he's worth more than $7M. My point is that there is a huge disconnect here based on the trades we see daily from Leafs fans. They get KINGS ransoms in trades from teams that can't even make room for him and they justify it by arguing he's an elite #1 dman, but when it comes time to pay him he's $7.7M. I've seen him extended as low as $6M on here from Leafs fans. Do those seem like the numbers an elite #1 dmen signs for?

26 août 2021 à 13 h 54

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The going rate for number 1 dmen is 8×9-9.5

He's not a #1, so that solves that.

26 août 2021 à 13 h 55

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I personally don't think he's worth more than $7M. My point is that there is a huge disconnect here based on the trades we see daily from Leafs fans. They get KINGS ransoms from teams that can't even make room for him and they justify it that he's an elite #1 dman, but when it comes time to pay him he's $7.7M. I've seen him extended as low as $6M on here from Leafs fans. Do those seem like the numbers an elite #1 dmen signs for?

we cant afford him. and i recall he was supposed to take a discount

26 août 2021 à 13 h 56

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He's not a #1, so that solves that.

Agreed. But the point of the original post was that if rielly is as good as leafs fans make him out to be, he is not getting paid enough.
Edit: I didn't realize you made the original post. I was just following up on your post.

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26 août 2021 à 13 h 56

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Taxi squad don't exist. SDA won't be ready (brooks) think Anderson takes the spot gogolev and rather have Rubin's or Hollowell over Marc stall to save some cap

26 août 2021 à 13 h 56

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Quoting: jake6ix_deep

we cant afford him. and i recall he was supposed to take a discount

I read reports he may be willing to take one, but we hear that often and it rarely seems to come to fruition.

26 août 2021 à 13 h 57

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Rasmus Ristolainen was traded to the Philadelphia Flyers by the Buffalo Sabres on Friday for Robert Hagg, a first-round pick (No. 14) in the 2021 NHL Draft and a second-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.

Morgan Rielly if traded will get something like this

26 août 2021 à 13 h 57

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It's just trying to get it to fit in I guess. Also that reported that he would take a discount but that was before the market spiked. Now no one knows. If he goes to FA he will get close to 9 by Seattle

26 août 2021 à 13 h 59

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Appreciate this post. Goes to show why extending Rielly next year would be a mistake. They have no cap space

Could still work if Rielly takes a hometown discount at $7.7M. Kerfoot and Holl could easily be moved, creating $5.5M more in space, which is more than enough for adds.

Leafs will always be a team right up against the cap as long as they're trying to contend - so having little to no cap space doesn't concern them. They e proven they know how to make it work and make wiggle room outta the smallest space. It's entirely possible that Rielly re-signs and sticks around long term in Toronto

26 août 2021 à 14 h 0

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Haha yeah. Agreed.

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26 août 2021 à 14 h 0

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That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

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26 août 2021 à 14 h 2

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We hear reports of that all the time and is seldom happens, at least with bigger players. It's rumored Malkin will take a discount and possibly Letang, but I'm not even banking on that until it happens lol

26 août 2021 à 14 h 5

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Could still work if Rielly takes a hometown discount at $7.7M. Kerfoot and Holl could easily be moved, creating $5.5M more in space, which is more than enough for adds.

Leafs will always be a team right up against the cap as long as they're trying to contend - so having little to no cap space doesn't concern them. They e proven they know how to make it work and make wiggle room outta the smallest space. It's entirely possible that Rielly re-signs and sticks around long term in Toronto

Two guys the just protected in the expansion draft. Kerfoot maybe, but Holl is going nowhere. I would be very hesitant on signing a 28 year old offensive defenceman to 7+ mil for 7 years. If his skating goes that contract will age terribly. The only way a Morgan extension makes sense is if a larger contract is moved out

26 août 2021 à 14 h 7

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That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

You just said Leaf fans ask for KINGS ransoms, I consider a roster player, a 1st, and a 2nd a Kings ransom is all

26 août 2021 à 14 h 9

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

I'm going off what is being reported. And iirc both bunting and Ritchie took minor discounts to come here so it do happen but rarely on big contracts. Rielly is the type to do it I believe tho.

The big thing is no one knows what a discount would look like anymore or what his trade value is because everyone was reported prior to everything.

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26 août 2021 à 14 h 9

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You just said Leaf fans ask for KINGS ransoms, I consider a roster player, a 1st, and a 2nd a Kings ransom is all

Except leafs fans have been creating trades for MUCH more than that and to teams that have no room or need for him simply because he's a #1, "they'll make it happen."

26 août 2021 à 14 h 12

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Except leafs fans have been creating trades for MUCH more than that and to teams that have no room or need for him simply because he's a #1, "they'll make it happen."

Well, let's be real. There are plenty of trolls on here who pretend to be Leaf fans to get a rise out of people

26 août 2021 à 14 h 13

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Except leafs fans have been creating trades for MUCH more than that and to teams that have no room or need for him simply because he's a #1, "they'll make it happen."

A fair trade in my eyes going off what his value was before and now is a 1st a top prospect and a 3rd. Jones got 2 1sts a top RD prospect and a 2nd for Jones and the 32nd pick. If you take the 2nd round and 32 overall since they were acutally close in pick number I think it's 2 first and a top Rd prospect

So a 1st and top prospect and 3rd if it's trade for futures only isn't far fetched imo jones gets more because of being a RD

Of course with extension etc

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26 août 2021 à 14 h 16

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