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Unusual offer sheet

Créé par: Jobob77
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 12 août 2021
Publié: 12 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Timeline:
1. Kotkaniemi and Poehling contract
2. Lehkonen trade
3. Thomas offer sheet (If Blues match, they would probably need to trade Tarasenko for cheaper or trade Scandella)
4. Suzuki extension
5. Season start
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
1750 000 $
1925 000 $
14 110 731 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Thomas, Robert4 110 731 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Transactions
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $69 398 708 $597 561 $1 475 000 $12 101 292 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
4 110 731 $4 110 731 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1

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12 août 2021 à 18 h 9
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What would you propose a Suzuki extension to be?

IMO I think it’s too early to get a deal done for both sides.
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12 août 2021 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What would you propose a Suzuki extension to be?

IMO I think it’s too early to get a deal done for both sides.


If Kotkaniemi gets 3x3 and Thomas1x4.11, and Suzuki is much better, it probably starts 2x5...
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12 août 2021 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What would you propose a Suzuki extension to be?

IMO I think it’s too early to get a deal done for both sides.


5.000.000*3?
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12 août 2021 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: Riley816
If Kotkaniemi gets 3x3 and Thomas1x4.11, and Suzuki is much better, it probably starts 2x5...


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What would you propose a Suzuki extension to be?

IMO I think it’s too early to get a deal done for both sides.


Quoting: Riley816
If Kotkaniemi gets 3x3 and Thomas1x4.11, and Suzuki is much better, it probably starts 2x5...


I’d say 3 years between 6M and 7,25M or 2 years between 5M and 5,75M
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12 août 2021 à 18 h 19
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See I think some other team should do it with Kotkanemi
12 août 2021 à 18 h 21
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What would 'less' be in a Tarasenko trade. If trading him means keeping Thomas a trade already starts Thomas, plus whatever the return would be. A couple of picks makes it a good trade. Maybe Carolina keeps their 3rd and 5th and does a Niederreiter, 3rd and 5th for Tarasenko and just forget Lehkonen....
12 août 2021 à 18 h 21
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I’d say 3 years between 6M and 7,25M or 2 years between 5M and 5,75M


That’s probably close on the 3 year term, but what incentive does Suzuki have to sign this now? It’s not like he’s going to regress this season. The only way is up, especially with a full season of Caufield on his wing.
12 août 2021 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: papishark
See I think some other team should do it with Kotkanemi


Montreal have the cap space to match a max offer of 5,85M for KK. I don’t think any team would offer that kind of money.
12 août 2021 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
That’s probably close on the 3 year term, but what incentive does Suzuki have to sign this now? It’s not like he’s going to regress this season. The only way is up, especially with a full season of Caufield on his wing.


100% agree with you. However, on MTL side, ths talk should start sooner than later. You don’t want Suzuki as an RFA the next season considering you did 2 offer sheets in the 3 years :P. Cap situation next year might be difficult.
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12 août 2021 à 18 h 33
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What would 'less' be in a Tarasenko trade. If trading him means keeping Thomas a trade already starts Thomas, plus whatever the return would be. A couple of picks makes it a good trade. Maybe Carolina keeps their 3rd and 5th and does a Niederreiter, 3rd and 5th for Tarasenko and just forget Lehkonen....


I understand your point! However, Lehkonen trade would already be done. Basically, STL would have to decide if they want to trade Tarasenko for a lower price by matching thomas offer sheet or decline Thomas offer sheet and have more time to trade him.
12 août 2021 à 19 h 36
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What would you propose a Suzuki extension to be?

IMO I think it’s too early to get a deal done for both sides.


love to get Suzuki for like 8-6.5-7 aav
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Montreal have the cap space to match a max offer of 5,85M for KK. I don’t think any team would offer that kind of money.


Where can i find the rule for max offer for every RFA? Also I want to learn about overage (cuz i do get that it's a penalty but how does it work?)
12 août 2021 à 21 h 15
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Where can i find the rule for max offer for every RFA? Also I want to learn about overage (cuz i do get that it's a penalty but how does it work?)


During the offseason all the teams can go up to 10% more than the cap (can exceed by 8,15M). At the moment, MTL have a projected cap hit of 83,78M. 89,65M (81,5M + 8,15M) - 83,78M = 5,87M. If a team offered KK a 6M deal MTL couldn’t match because they would be over 10%
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12 août 2021 à 23 h 51
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Quoting: Jobob77
During the offseason all the teams can go up to 10% more than the cap (can exceed by 8,15M). At the moment, MTL have a projected cap hit of 83,78M. 89,65M (81,5M + 8,15M) - 83,78M = 5,87M. If a team offered KK a 6M deal MTL couldn’t match because they would be over 10%


Well I’m not 100% sure about this since it doesn’t really matter other than in this scenario, but couldn’t the habs put Weber on off-season LTIR to free up some room?
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Quoting: CARBONNEAU21
love to get Suzuki for like 8-6.5-7 aav


I would too, but that’s unlikely to happen, especially before this season.
13 août 2021 à 8 h 16
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Well I’m not 100% sure about this since it doesn’t really matter other than in this scenario, but couldn’t the habs put Weber on off-season LTIR to free up some room?

I’m pretty sure you can only put players on LTIR at the start of the season.
13 août 2021 à 9 h 9
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I’m pretty sure you can only put players on LTIR at the start of the season.


From CapFriendly’s LTIR FAQ section:

Can LTIR be used in the off-season?
Yes, LTIR can be used in the off-season while the 10% off-season cushion is active. LTIR in the off-season is calculated using the basic equation outlined above, which permits a team to exceed the off-season salary cap. To use off-season LTIR the team must provide doctors proof that the player in question will continue to be injured at the beginning of the regular season for 10 NHL games and 24 calendar days.

At the start of the season the teams LTIR relief & ACSL is recalculated when the 10% cushion is removed.
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