Adding Copp and Kilorn

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Créé par: vikhodush

Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 11 août 2021

Publié: 11 août 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Jets are tight up against the cap depending on what Copp ultimately signs for. Admittedly I'm not sure what a realistic contract or trade value is for him but hopefully I'm close, feel free to chime in with counters or suggestions. He'd slot in nicely into the top 6 though.

I realize Tampa doesn't need to move Kilorn or really anything else at this point but figured they could reload some assets for him and give a couple of their young guys more of a chance while creating additional flexibility to made TDL move if necessary to address other areas of their team. If not Kilorn, looking for vets who can step into the middle 6 and providing depth scoring and leadership with 1-2 years left on their deals.

For the following year - with the remaining cap space, plus salary cap increase of $1M, Nino walking - that should create roughly $8M of cap space. That should be enough to cover Necas, Troch & Bear raises to keep them. Cole could potentially not be re-signed if more cap space is needed and somebody like Sellgren might be ready to step in next year in his place.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Copp, Andrew	5	5 000 000 $
Svechnikov, Andrei	2	6 600 000 $
Lajoie, Maxime	2	850 000 $

Transactions

CAR

Copp, Andrew [Droits de RFA]

WPG

Fast, Jesper
Suzuki, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Not sure on value but hoping this is close?

CAR

Killorn, Alex

Détails additionnels:

I know Tampa doesn't need to move him and they likely won't at this point. Looking for a player with 1-2 years left that can slot into middle 6 and provide additional scoring, toughness and leadership

TBL

Bokk, Dominik
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	80 098 583 $	0 $	537 500 $	1 401 417 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Svechnikov, Andrei 6 600 000 $6 600 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 3	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Copp, Andrew 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Trocheck, Vincent 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 1
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Stepan, Derek 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Martinook, Jordan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Lorentz, Steven 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Bear, Ethan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Raanta, Antti 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Deangelo, Anthony 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Cole, Ian 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Smith, Brendan 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD, AG UFA - 1		Gardiner, Jake 4 050 000 $4 050 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2
Leivo, Josh 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Drury, Jack 925 000 $925 000 $ C RFA - 3

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Aho, S.		Trocheck, V.		Killorn, A.
	Svechnikov, A.		Deangelo, A.

Avantage numérique 2
Copp, A.		Staal, J.		Niederreiter, N.
	Teräväinen, T.		Necas, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Staal, J.	Trocheck, V.
	Slavin, J.	Cole, I.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Aho, S.	Teräväinen, T.
	Skjei, B.	Pesce, B.

11 août 2021 à 15 h 49

Windjammer

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I would have to think the Jets look at that. You might be a bit high with 2 players and a 1st though.

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 49

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That’s probably an overpayment, I’m completely fine with giving up the first, but I’d prefer it be a lesser prospect than Suzuki. They would probably still want a center in return though, maybe Drury?

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 51

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I love that trade as a Jets fan but agree with the above, you could probably get him for a little less than that.

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 52

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Quoting: Windjammer

I would have to think the Jets look at that. You might be a bit high with 2 players and a 1st though.

Haha I figured you'd chime in after our latest back and forth - wanted to make the return good enough so appreciate the feedback.

11 août 2021 à 15 h 53

vikhodush

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Quoting: Canesfan21_

Yeah - that was my initial thought but was having a convo w/ Windjammer in another thread and wanted to provide a strong offer. I'd do that same deal with Drury or Rees in place of Suzuki if Jets accepted.

11 août 2021 à 15 h 54

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Quoting: Rooney

I love that trade as a Jets fan but agree with the above, you could probably get him for a little less than that.

Quoting: Windjammer

I would have to think the Jets look at that. You might be a bit high with 2 players and a 1st though.

Would you guys do the same deal but replace Suzuki with either Drury or Rees? Both still really good center prospects that project as middle 6 centers. Suzuki has a higher ceiling but also don't think his development has gotten off to the best of starts due to a flukey eye injury.

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 55

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Quoting: vikhodush

I'd be very interested in Drury!! Don't know as much about Rees though.

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 57

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Quoting: vikhodush

I think any of those guys might work. Chevy may think different, but I would think any of those guys at least gets a conversation going.

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 57

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Quoting: Rooney

I'd be very interested in Drury!! Don't know as much about Rees though.

What do you think Copp will ultimately sign for? 5x5 or is that too rich as well?

11 août 2021 à 16 h 6

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Pass on Copp even if the asking price would be slightly less than that. .

Copp is 27 and has one season above .5 ppg production. He doesn’t have a ton more to grow. Most of his points are from assists and we need goal scorers as well.

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 19

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Quoting: ecupirate07

That's fair - I do think given the opportunity to play in the top 6 you could see him sustain his production from last year. Believe he played a combo of 2nd/3rd line minutes and quality of teammates last year. Something I need to look into more to understand how sustainable last year's growth was.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 25

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Honestly, too much for Copp. You could get him for Suzuki and a 2nd alone. Especially given the circumstances, teams knowing Jets are in a cap crunch. Copps arbitration date coming up.

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 26

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Ngl this team has the potential to be so deadly with those two top 9 additions. Very possibly a cup team if the chemistry is not too disturbed after what's been an eventful summer for the Canes. If Tampa's not willing to deal Killorn, a guy I'd take a look at is Silfverberg at a much friendlier price.

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 28

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Quoting: tsyls

Honestly, too much for Copp. You could get him for Suzuki and a 2nd alone. Especially given the circumstances, teams knowing Jets are in a cap crunch. Copps arbitration date coming up.

Yep that's fair - just wanted to not undershoot the offer. Definitely happy to spend less on him

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 31

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Quoting: SevenLeg

Yeah, they'd be a really fun and dangerous team. Those moves would probably make the rest of the offseason more palatable for majority of us fans. I don't love all of the moves they did but I also don't think they got worse. Still need to see what this front office does with the rest of the offseason before passing final judgement. They're clearly a top 6 winger short right now and could benefit from two top 9 additions like I've done here. They have the cap space and the prospect cupboard to make some of those moves via trade since they let guys like Saad and Tatar go to other teams even though they would've been good fits as well.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 54

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think that is a bit of a high price but think the Jets might want Martinook instead of Fast because they look weak on the left side as i see Stastny plating and teaching Perfetti

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11 août 2021 à 17 h 10

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Quoting: vikhodush

Definitely would rather it be Rees instead of drury. It would be interesting if we added coop though

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11 août 2021 à 17 h 49

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Quoting: Canesfan21_

Jets are overflowing with centers in Scheifele, Pierre Luc Dubois, Paul Stastny, Adam Lowry, and two very good C prospects in Perfetti and Gustaffson. Would be looking for a solid 3rd liner and a prospect or high pick. Think the deal is a slight overpayment but the Jets definitely accept.

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11 août 2021 à 18 h 0

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Quoting: HtotheBtotheM

Yeah that’s consistent feedback. Could sub out for a winger prospect like Bokk instead

12 août 2021 à 8 h 7

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Quoting: vikhodush

What do you think Copp will ultimately sign for? 5x5 or is that too rich as well?

My guess is 4x4.25!

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