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Eichel 3 way deal

Créé par: borekmark62
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2021
Publié: 10 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I doubt the 3rd round pick is involved but if the deal is worked out, Buffalo can replace that with a 1st and prospect or more from VGK. Can also see the Rangers sending something to Vegas so Buffalo can secure Krebs cause I think Vegas values him highly.
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NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. Zibanejad, Mika
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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Zibanejad is then flipped to vegas for picks and prospects
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10 août 2021 à 2 h 31
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No interest in Jones,
LD is our biggest position of strength really
*Replace him with Kravtsov- we need forwards

Obviously Zibanejad isn’t coming here, but if he goes to Vegas and we get Krebs & a 1st, then I’d say that’s a good deal- as it would end up being:
-Krebs
-Kravtsov
-NyR 1st
-VGk 1st
-StL 2nd
-Wpg 4th

Not quite what I’d like, as the 1sts would likely be around 20th & around 30th….. but in a deep ‘22 draft i could accept them as parts 3 & 4 of the deal

Not a bad idea


I think i like the prospects from Minny & the Ducks more though (*IF they’re willing to give them up, of course)
10 août 2021 à 4 h 33
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Quoting: Buffalove
No interest in Jones,
LD is our biggest position of strength really
*Replace him with Kravtsov- we need forwards

Obviously Zibanejad isn’t coming here, but if he goes to Vegas and we get Krebs & a 1st, then I’d say that’s a good deal- as it would end up being:
-Krebs
-Kravtsov
-NyR 1st
-VGk 1st
-StL 2nd
-Wpg 4th

Not quite what I’d like, as the 1sts would likely be around 20th & around 30th….. but in a deep ‘22 draft i could accept them as parts 3 & 4 of the deal

Not a bad idea


I think i like the prospects from Minny & the Ducks more though (*IF they’re willing to give them up, of course)


You're not getting Krebs+1st for one year of Zibanejad.
10 août 2021 à 4 h 48
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You're not getting Krebs+1st for one year of Zibanejad.


No reason it has to be only 1 year
And I’m not the one who initiated the Krebs + a 1st idea
Although, since it’s very likely to be a late 1st, i actually think that’s fair value (especially is Zibanejad extends)
If you read, the original poster suggested it….
AND he also said NyR would likely have to send something more to Vegas as part of the trade

Maybe u should read the whole thing before commenting???
10 août 2021 à 5 h 0
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No reason it has to be only 1 year
And I’m not the one who initiated the Krebs + a 1st idea
Although, since it’s very likely to be a late 1st, i actually think that’s fair value (especially is Zibanejad extends)
If you read, the original poster suggested it….
AND he also said NyR would likely have to send something more to Vegas as part of the trade

Maybe u should read the whole thing before commenting???


Except VGK can't afford to keep Zibanejad if he costs over $8M. They're pretty cap strapped bunch.

And I did read it all. And that was the thing that sounded most off to me.

Can't see VGK being interested if Krebs is involved. He's their top prospect now that they've traded Glass, and they need guys on their ELC for monetary reasons.
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10 août 2021 à 5 h 1
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Except VGK can't afford to keep Zibanejad if he costs over $8M. They're pretty cap strapped bunch.

And I did read it all. And that was the thing that sounded most off to me.

Can't see VGK being interested if Krebs is involved. He's their top prospect now that they've traded Glass, and they need guys on their ELC for monetary reasons.


Then there’s no chance this deal would go through imo
And ALSO…..
it was NOT ME who posted this trade scenario
You’re talking to the wrong guy about the problems with it

And btw….
It’s gonna take a team’s top prospect(s) if they wanna get Eichel imo- don’t think the Sabres are gonna “sell low”
10 août 2021 à 5 h 4
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Then there’s no chance this deal would go through
And ALSO…..
it was NOT ME who posted this trade scenario
You’re talking to the wrong guy about the problems with it


GG all good then. Don't take everything personally man, I'm not criticizing you here.
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10 août 2021 à 5 h 5
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GG all good then. Don't take everything personally man, I'm not criticizing you here.


I’m not
But you were directing your criticisms towards me dude
10 août 2021 à 5 h 52
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Quoting: Buffalove
I’m not
But you were directing your criticisms towards me dude


Quoting doesn't necessarily mean targeting. You were both offering opinions on the same topic is all.

I don't see why the Rangers wouldn't just re-sign Zibs if they had to give up that much to acquire Eichel.
If they did decide to sign and trade him, they could get a substantial return for themselves and then decide from there.
10 août 2021 à 7 h 19
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Quoting: Buffalove
Then there’s no chance this deal would go through imo


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Except VGK can't afford to keep Zibanejad if he costs over $8M. They're pretty cap strapped bunch.


I think we're missing the biggest issue with this idea...why would Vegas get involved in an Eichel deal to settle for Zib (lacking cost certainty and already 28, ) when they could just deal directly for Eichel and dump the needed cap on Buffalo at the same time. Conceptually, makes little sense.

Quoting: ricochetii
Quoting doesn't necessarily mean targeting. You were both offering opinions on the same topic is all.


Also, way too adult an approach for ACGM lol
10 août 2021 à 11 h 1
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No interest in Jones,
LD is our biggest position of strength really
*Replace him with Kravtsov- we need forwards

Obviously Zibanejad isn’t coming here, but if he goes to Vegas and we get Krebs & a 1st, then I’d say that’s a good deal- as it would end up being:
-Krebs
-Kravtsov
-NyR 1st
-VGk 1st
-StL 2nd
-Wpg 4th

Not quite what I’d like, as the 1sts would likely be around 20th & around 30th….. but in a deep ‘22 draft i could accept them as parts 3 & 4 of the deal

Not a bad idea


I think i like the prospects from Minny & the Ducks more though (*IF they’re willing to give them up, of course)


I agree that I didn't think Jones is enough, just felt like the is absolute lowest Buffalo would entertain. Trade is more for the concept, and not for the accuracy.
10 août 2021 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: justaBoss
Except VGK can't afford to keep Zibanejad if he costs over $8M. They're pretty cap strapped bunch.

And I did read it all. And that was the thing that sounded most off to me.

Can't see VGK being interested if Krebs is involved. He's their top prospect now that they've traded Glass, and they need guys on their ELC for monetary reasons.


I don't know, Vegas has been super aggressive with deals since their inception.
10 août 2021 à 11 h 4
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Then there’s no chance this deal would go through imo
And ALSO…..
it was NOT ME who posted this trade scenario
You’re talking to the wrong guy about the problems with it

And btw….
It’s gonna take a team’s top prospect(s) if they wanna get Eichel imo- don’t think the Sabres are gonna “sell low”


I don't particularly think it has to be the top prospect, just a safe prospect with NHL Top 6, or Top 4 upside.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Quoting doesn't necessarily mean targeting. You were both offering opinions on the same topic is all.

I don't see why the Rangers wouldn't just re-sign Zibs if they had to give up that much to acquire Eichel.
If they did decide to sign and trade him, they could get a substantial return for themselves and then decide from there.


This concept reminds me of the trade that got Zib in the first place, dump a center who is about to enter his 30s for a younger center who is entering their prime.
10 août 2021 à 12 h 8
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I don't particularly think it has to be the top prospect, just a safe prospect with NHL Top 6, or Top 4 upside.


Top prospect is probably possible, just not in addition to three other "1st round equivalents". Do you want the all-but-guaranteed NHL calibre prospect, or do you want several 50% chances in hopes that more than one of them pan out?
You aren't likely to get both.
10 août 2021 à 14 h 6
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I don't particularly think it has to be the top prospect, just a safe prospect with NHL Top 6, or Top 4 upside.


That’s where we disagree
If tha Sabres trade a legit 1C, one of the top10ish players in the league, and the best piece they get back could have a ceiling of a 2nd liner or 2nd pair defenseman, then they’re pretty dumb
They should be getting MULTIPLE high end pieces for Eichel,
Imo of course
10 août 2021 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: Buffalove
That’s where we disagree
If tha Sabres trade a legit 1C, one of the top10ish players in the league, and the best piece they get back could have a ceiling of a 2nd liner or 2nd pair defenseman, then they’re pretty dumb
They should be getting MULTIPLE high end pieces for Eichel,
Imo of course


I'm sorry I miss spoke, I meant players like Krebs or Kravtsov where it seems like they are sure shot top 6 forwards, or Jones who I believe is a sure shot top 4 dman. Potential to be more, but not guranteed 60-70 point guys. At this point I can't see a Laf or Kakko going to Buffalo based off where negotiations have been reported to be. Minnesota will have a hard time making this deal due to the cap situation they are in coming up, and Rossi, and Boldy will likely not go. I think Kravy and Krebs is likely one of the better offers they will get at this point, along with other draft picks.
 
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