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Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
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  1. Bokk, Dominik
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/500953
CAR
  1. Olofsson, Victor
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
***Stolen from a Cane Fan***
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  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
  2. Kupari, Rasmus
  3. Madden, Tyler
  4. Quick, Jonathan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
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Feel this could be something the sabres would take right now. Future assets, but not cleaning out the Kings with all their top prospects.

Quick included for King's Cap Space
LAK
  1. Eichel, Jack
Détails additionnels:
Another Rasmus, to make up the lost of Risto
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  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. Komarov, Leo
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    6 août 2021 à 2 h 35
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    LA isnt in on Eichel anymore
    6 août 2021 à 2 h 47
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    LA isnt in on Eichel anymore


    I didnt realize we had capfriendly members on the Sabres 9r king's management team.
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    6 août 2021 à 2 h 51
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    I didnt realize we had capfriendly members on the Sabres 9r king's management team.


    Its common sense man, think about it
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 7
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    LA isnt in on Eichel anymore


    Didn’t realize u knew the Kings GM
    That must be cool !
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    6 août 2021 à 3 h 11
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    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
    I didnt realize we had capfriendly members on the Sabres 9r king's management team.


    He just wants to troll on EVERY SINGLE Eichel trade proposal here
    He CLEARLY knows more than all of us delusional Sabres fans
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    6 août 2021 à 3 h 13
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    He just wants to troll on EVERY SINGLE Eichel trade proposal here
    He CLEARLY knows more than all of us delusional Sabres fans


    Still waiting for you to point to one time when I've trolled you
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 18
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Still waiting for you to point to one time when I've trolled you


    You TROLL every single Eichel post with the supposed knowledge you have
    It’s really just comes off as arrogant & extremely repetitive,
    since for some reason u need to comment on EVERY Eichel trade proposal post

    Guess what dude….
    We’ve heard you for the THOUSANDTH time,
    and we just don’t care

    Go comment on trades involving your own team,
    instead of trolling ours
    It’s sad
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 20
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    You TROLL every single Eichel post with the supposed knowledge you have
    It’s really just comes off as arrogant & extremely repetitive,
    since for some reason u need to comment on EVERY Eichel trade proposal post

    Guess what dude….
    We’ve heard you for the THOUSANDTH time,
    and we just don’t care

    Go comment on trades involving your own team,
    instead of trolling ours
    It’s sad


    Thank for failing once again to give a single example of when I "trolled" you
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 22
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    Kings have never truly been interested, but now they don't have the cap space either and they're not trading Kaliyev especially.
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 27
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Thank for failing once again to give a single example of when I "trolled" you


    You TROLL on all the Eichel trade posts
    Go focus on your own team
    We don’t care about what you arrogantly think you know

    NO ONE actually knows what’s going on with the Eichel trade

    So THANK YOU for leaving us without any more of your nonsense

    BYEEEEEEE
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 36
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    I doubt the Kings would get Eichel now. They just got Danault and if they get Eichel as well they'll have logjam at C while having many good prospects at that position. Even with this trade they'd still have Byfield and Turcotte while Vilardi and Anderson-Dolan are already NHLers. It just seems very unlikely at this point.
    6 août 2021 à 3 h 45
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    You TROLL on all the Eichel trade posts
    Go focus on your own team
    We don’t care about what you arrogantly think you know

    NO ONE actually knows what’s going on with the Eichel trade

    So THANK YOU for leaving us without any more of your nonsense

    BYEEEEEEE


    Going through your post history its pretty clear that you act like this to everyone you come across that doesn't agree with your opinions and lash out inexplicably. I never did anything to you until you lashed out at me for no reason (never even interacted with you), and I definitely don't go out of my way to troll Eichel trade posts. For example in this trade proposal it clearly puts LA marginally over the cap with only 1 goalie with RFA's still to sign. Not to mention they literally just went out and signed a top 6 center long term and have multiple high end center prospects already. LA has also been reported by multiple insiders to no longer be in on Eichel for weeks now

    My guess is your first account got banned/temp banned for similar things that you do on this one.
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    6 août 2021 à 3 h 52
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Going through your post history its pretty clear that you act like this to everyone you come across that doesn't agree with your opinions and lash out inexplicably. I never did anything to you until you lashed out at me for no reason (never even interacted with you), and I definitely don't go out of my way to troll Eichel trade posts. For example in this trade proposal it clearly puts LA marginally over the cap with only 1 goalie with RFA's still to sign. Not to mention they literally just went out and signed a top 6 center long term and have multiple high end center prospects already. LA has also been reported by multiple insiders to no longer be in on Eichel for weeks now

    My guess is your first account got banned/temp banned for similar things that you do on this one.


    Listen dude….
    You’re a Flames fan who feels the need to post on EVERY Eichel trade proposal on this site
    And from what I’ve seen- ALWAYS against the Sabres
    You may be right about the Kings being out,
    but LA could also think that Turcotte+++ is something they could live with to have the best grouping of Centers in the NHL

    Point is…. NO ONE KNOWS

    So you, AND OTHERS, can stop pretending like you do KNOW
    Because you don’t

    And you can go focus on posts about your own team,
    instead of constantly coming on ours
    It’s just unnecessary dude
    Go away
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 13
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Listen dude….
    You’re a Flames fan who feels the need to post on EVERY Eichel trade proposal on this site
    And from what I’ve seen- ALWAYS against the Sabres
    You may be right about the Kings being out,
    but LA could also think that Turcotte+++ is something they could live with to have the best grouping of Centers in the NHL

    Point is…. NO ONE KNOWS

    So you, AND OTHERS, can stop pretending like you do KNOW
    Because you don’t

    And you can go focus on posts about your own team,
    instead of constantly coming on ours
    It’s just unnecessary dude
    Go away


    But here's the problem with your logic, I don't post on every Eichel thread, in fact I almost strictly post on ones involving the Flames. In the last 2 pages of Sabres threads (50 total, yes I just went and looked through all 50 of them for you) I have only commented in 4 that did not involve the Flames (this one included). Post 2, Post 3, Post 4.
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 23
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    But here's the problem with your logic, I don't post on every Eichel thread, in fact I almost strictly post on ones involving the Flames. In the last 2 pages of Sabres threads (50 total, yes I just went and looked through all 50 of them for you) I have only commented in 4 that did not involve the Flames (this one included). Post 2, Post 3, Post 4.


    Thanks for pointing out how you’re posting on Eichel trade posts, but i already knew that
    Dude….. I’m just asking you to give it a rest

    AGAIN…. You don’t know what these other teams are thinking
    How about we just let this all play out, ok?
    You don’t need to come here & post about Eichel trades every damn day- especially when it doesn’t concern your team

    Just let it go ffs
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 26
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    Thanks for pointing out how you’re posting on Eichel trade posts, but i already knew that
    Dude….. I’m just asking you to give it a rest

    AGAIN…. You don’t know what these other teams are thinking
    How about we just let this all play out, ok?
    You don’t need to come here & post about Eichel trades every damn day- especially when it doesn’t concern your team

    Just let it go ffs


    did you just like not read what I said?

    Forget it man, I try to have a reasonable conversation with you to figure out why you constantly lash out at me but this really isn't worth my time. I'll just block and move on. Hope you figure out your anger issues though smile
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 31
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    LA don't have the cap for Eichel after bringing in Danault, and that's WAY too much for Olofsson, both teams reject pretty quickly. However... if you wanted to throw in Jarvis, Keane, Rees and someone like Ponamarev, and look at sending Eichel to us, that would be fun smile
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 46
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    LA don't have the cap for Eichel after bringing in Danault, and that's WAY too much for Olofsson, both teams reject pretty quickly. However... if you wanted to throw in Jarvis, Keane, Rees and someone like Ponamarev, and look at sending Eichel to us, that would be fun smile


    Highly doubtful imo
    Buffalo is showing they won’t “sell low”
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    6 août 2021 à 4 h 48
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    did you just like not read what I said?

    Forget it man, I try to have a reasonable conversation with you to figure out why you constantly lash out at me but this really isn't worth my time. I'll just block and move on. Hope you figure out your anger issues though smile


    Or just stop posting on Eichel trade posts daily
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 50
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    Highly doubtful imo
    Buffalo is showing they won’t “sell low”


    Okay... until he gets moved, he won't play hockey. His value is going to diminish. So if they don't sell now, they'll be selling low.

    And they will sell low, Adams is just waiting for Eichel to demand a trade so he can justify the low return he's going to get
    6 août 2021 à 4 h 53
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    Okay... until he gets moved, he won't play hockey. His value is going to diminish. So if they don't sell now, they'll be selling low.

    And they will sell low, Adams is just waiting for Eichel to demand a trade so he can justify the low return he's going to get


    Lol
    Thanks…. But unless you’re close with Adams, then you don’t KNOW this

    Lots of assumptions in your post,
    none of which i care about

    NONE of us KNOW what’s gonna happen,
    so u can stop pretending like you do
    We’ll have to wait & see how it plays out
    6 août 2021 à 5 h 12
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    Lol
    Thanks…. But unless you’re close with Adams, then you don’t KNOW this

    Lots of assumptions in your post,
    none of which i care about

    NONE of us KNOW what’s gonna happen,
    so u can stop pretending like you do
    We’ll have to wait & see how it plays out


    We KNOW he can't play until he has his operation. He's got a herniated disk in his neck. We KNOW that the Sabres want to get the bone fused together, and we KNOW Eichel wants a replacement disk in his back. This is all from Friedman and can be discovered on the 31 Thoughts podcast. We KNOW he cannot play until he has his operation and we KNOW that will not happen in Buffalo. So he will not play again until he's moved, unless the Sabres buckle from their position.

    You don't need to be close with Adams to know this, you just need to research this.
    6 août 2021 à 5 h 16
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    We KNOW he can't play until he has his operation. He's got a herniated disk in his neck. We KNOW that the Sabres want to get the bone fused together, and we KNOW Eichel wants a replacement disk in his back. This is all from Friedman and can be discovered on the 31 Thoughts podcast. We KNOW he cannot play until he has his operation and we KNOW that will not happen in Buffalo. So he will not play again until he's moved, unless the Sabres buckle from their position.

    You don't need to be close with Adams to know this, you just need to research this.


    Things change
    And you’re ASSUMPTIONS are not the facts you think they are

    Sabres are proving they won’t “sell low” on Eichel
    Sorry u can’t accept that
    Good luck to ya
    6 août 2021 à 5 h 41
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Things change
    And you’re ASSUMPTIONS are not the facts you think they are

    Sabres are proving they won’t “sell low” on Eichel
    Sorry u can’t accept that
    Good luck to ya


    Buddy, the FACT is he can't play.

    https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/why-eichel-wants-a-disc-replacement/

    That's the doctor in Colorado he went to talk to explaining why he can't play until he gets surgery, and why he wants the surgery he wants.

    His value will diminish while he's on the shelf.

    Eichel doesn't hold the value you think he does right now

    Sorry you can't deal with it!
    6 août 2021 à 5 h 51
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    So he will not play again until he's moved, unless the Sabres buckle from their position.

    You don't need to be close with Adams to know this, you just need to research this.


    Well you have an interesting research methodology... This is a pretty massive assumption. There is also the possibility (which you ignore to serve your chosen narrative - talk about intellectual integrity...) that Eichel ends up getting fusion. The overwhelming weight of medical (and, more to the point, tort) history says he almost certainly loses any medical arbitration case (which is likely why he hasn't filed).

    His alternative? Do nothing or go rogue and get the surgery he wants anyway, either of which result in suspension and not being paid for as long as 5 years...

    Eichel has just about zero leverage beyond willingly sacrificing $10M/year and his career.

    Quoting: Buffalove
    Things change
    And you’re ASSUMPTIONS are not the facts you think they are


    Incredible, isn't it? People draw ridiculous conclusions and truly believe their uninformed opinion to be the only possible truth...

    Quoting: Buffalove

    Sabres are proving they won’t “sell low” on Eichel
    Sorry u can’t accept that
    Good luck to ya


    This could still go either way to be fair but selling low does seem unlikely now.

    I suspect they are fine letting him sit out, suspending him for not doing as the team doctors say, and not paying him. Keeps him away from the team, forces him to realize his path back to the NHL is coming back and proving he's healthy (which is the route the Sabres should go anyway), saves the Pegulas $, makes a statement that the Sabres won't be pushed around no matter how much you complain (which is overdue), etc. Sabres aren't exactly a destination right now anyway so nothing to lose.

    That will turn up the heat on Eichel real fast. Adams has every reason in the world to make Eichel suffer here considering how badly he and his agents have handled this so far. (Who exactly was that statement they put out supposed to be helping? A trade is likely further away now than ever.)
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