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Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2021
Publié: 5 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Calgary
IN: Eichel, Tarasenko (1m retained)
OUT: Chuky, Monahan, Pelletier

Boston
IN: Monahan
OUT: Debrusk, 1st 2022

St Louis
IN: Tkachuk
OUT: Taresenko (1m retained), kyrou, 1st 2022

Buffalo
IN: Debrusk, Kyrou, Pelletier, 1st Blues 2022, 1st Bruins 2022
OUT: Eichel
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
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22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
2.
CGY
  1. Kyrou, Jordan
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
3.
BUF
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Kyrou, Jordan
  3. Pelletier, Jakob
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
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UFA - 3
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UFA - 5
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5 août 2021 à 17 h 49
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Blues accept.

Am I crazy or does this seem pretty good value all around?
Like obviously I don't see it happening, but everyone seems to make out alright?
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5 août 2021 à 18 h 5
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Here’s my question: is Monahan’s value that high? I actually really like him, and if it was up to me, and that was a “take it or leave it offer,” I would jump at it. That said, two real down years for monahan, and his contract comes at a lot more risk than Debrusk’s.

If I’m the bruins, I make this deal, but before hand I would be pushing for that 1st to be a 2nd using the logic above.
5 août 2021 à 18 h 11
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Pass on the STL trade, no reason to do that at all
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5 août 2021 à 18 h 16
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Somehow you're getting more for Tkachuk than we are for eichel. Id rather just trade eichel to the blues for their first, tarasenko and kyrou.
5 août 2021 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Here’s my question: is Monahan’s value that high? I actually really like him, and if it was up to me, and that was a “take it or leave it offer,” I would jump at it. That said, two real down years for monahan, and his contract comes at a lot more risk than Debrusk’s.

If I’m the bruins, I make this deal, but before hand I would be pushing for that 1st to be a 2nd using the logic above.


I think so.
Is he an elite top 1c? No.. But he would be an amazing 2c for the bruins.
His floor is a 20g/50pt center, he's only 26 and is signed for 2 more years.



Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pass on the STL trade, no reason to do that at all


There is one situation where Calgary would want to do this, however unfounded you may think it is.

Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Somehow you're getting more for Tkachuk than we are for eichel. Id rather just trade eichel to the blues for their first, tarasenko and kyrou.


Flames are not getting more for Chuky here..
Really? As buffalo you'd rather have tarasenko over another first + debrusl + Pelletier?
I guess that's your opinion man.
5 août 2021 à 18 h 33
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I think so.
Is he an elite top 1c? No.. But he would be an amazing 2c for the bruins.
His floor is a 20g/50pt center, he's only 26 and is signed for 2 more years.





There is one situation where Calgary would want to do this, however unfounded you may think it is.



Flames are not getting more for Chuky here..
Really? As buffalo you'd rather have tarasenko over another first + debrusl + Pelletier?
I guess that's your opinion man.


Well, last year he played at a 16 goal, 45 point per 82 pace. Again, i like the player, but over 6 million with back to back years like that is a little scary. Don’t get me wrong, I like the player and maybe he just needs a change in scenery, or maybe the pandemic measures effected him more than most. Again, i would do that trade, but I would push to drop the draft pick compensation a smidge.
5 août 2021 à 18 h 41
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Well, last year he played at a 16 goal, 45 point per 82 pace. Again, i like the player, but over 6 million with back to back years like that is a little scary. Don’t get me wrong, I like the player and maybe he just needs a change in scenery, or maybe the pandemic measures effected him more than most. Again, i would do that trade, but I would push to drop the draft pick compensation a smidge.


Yea I get what you're saying. It was pretty clear he was playing with a severe injury through most of last year (required hip surgery). If you look through the rest of his numbers he's been Mr.Consistent. Even this year with a severe injury and getting moved down to 2c he was pretty close to those averages.

He's a prime candidate for a bounce-back. I can't understate how noticeable it was that he was playing through an injury
5 août 2021 à 18 h 55
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Well, last year he played at a 16 goal, 45 point per 82 pace. Again, i like the player, but over 6 million with back to back years like that is a little scary. Don’t get me wrong, I like the player and maybe he just needs a change in scenery, or maybe the pandemic measures effected him more than most. Again, i would do that trade, but I would push to drop the draft pick compensation a smidge.


I feel like ive broken this down for you before, pre injury Monahan paced 63 points, post injury he paced 38
5 août 2021 à 18 h 57
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I feel like ive broken this down for you before, pre injury Monahan paced 63 points, post injury he paced 38


And are we sure he’s over the injury?
5 août 2021 à 18 h 58
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I don’t think Tarasenko would waive for Calgary
5 août 2021 à 19 h 4
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And are we sure he’s over the injury?


He got hip surgery at the very end of the season and it was successful. There is no guarantee he is the same until he plays again but from what ive read his specific surgery has a high rebound rate (as in most players return to their former selves).
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5 août 2021 à 19 h 20
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Buffalo will accept if they're getting Calgary's first, Boston and St Louis' first should be late firsts, Calgary is up in the air, the Pacific is a weaker conference, they could make the playoffs or miss.
5 août 2021 à 19 h 34
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Buffalo will accept if they're getting Calgary's first, Boston and St Louis' first should be late firsts, Calgary is up in the air, the Pacific is a weaker conference, they could make the playoffs or miss.


Nah the value here is fine, the upgrade from Dube to Kyrou makes up for the difference in 1sts.
5 août 2021 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Nah the value here is fine, the upgrade from Dube to Kyrou makes up for the difference in 1sts.


I'm not saying the value isn't there, I am saying Buffalo will want the better 1st round pick
5 août 2021 à 19 h 37
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I'm not saying the value isn't there, I am saying Buffalo will want the better 1st round pick


Then replace Kyrou with Dube
5 août 2021 à 21 h 23
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Keep it simple - which it will likely end up being:

Dube, Zary, Pelletier, Monahan & 1st rounder (Monahan only to help balance the cap hits; Sabres will want the young players and need a center coming back) for Eichel. None of the players the Flames would be giving up seem like Sutter-type players that he'd be upset losing.
 
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