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Trade for Bert

Créé par: Grenny
Date de création initiale: jui 31, 2021
Publié: 31 jui à 12 h 19
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
DET
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. Mikheyev, Ilya
TOR
  1. 2022 4e round pick (COL)
DET
  1. Engvall, Pierre
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
TOR
TOR
COL
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 434 783 $0 $400 000 $65 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
1 250 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Gabriel, Kurtis
750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Biega, Alex
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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31 jui à 12 h 22
#1
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Why does TOR fans keep trading the same players for Bertuzzi?

That’s not happening
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31 jui à 12 h 22
#2
Pain.
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I dont understand why people think Bertuzzi's value is so low. The Wings were listening to offers, not actively trying to move him. Look at the Mantha deal, they would have been happy to keep him, but what the Caps offered was too good to turn down. A Bertuzzi trade would probably look similar
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31 jui à 12 h 27
#3
Buffbry
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Wings pass not close to package value
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31 jui à 12 h 43
#4
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Quoting: Nate
I dont understand why people think Bertuzzi's value is so low. The Wings were listening to offers, not actively trying to move him. Look at the Mantha deal, they would have been happy to keep him, but what the Caps offered was too good to turn down. A Bertuzzi trade would probably look similar


Maybe it isn't undervaluing Bertuzzi maybe they are overvaluing the players off the bottom half of their roster.

Either way you are right this doesn't get you Bertuzzi.
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31 jui à 13 h 10
#5
Rejoint: sep 2020
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Detroit declines.
buffbry a aimé ceci.
31 jui à 13 h 53
#6
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: KINGS67
Why does TOR fans keep trading the same players for Bertuzzi?

That’s not happening


Because it's evident they don't know Bertuzzi's value.
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31 jui à 13 h 55
#7
Go Wings Go
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Danny DeKeyset+Frans Nielsen+Sam Gagner for Auston Matthews. You keep giving us your scraps we will do the same.
31 jui à 15 h 11
#8
arky
Rejoint: aoû 2016
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I have to ask why would Wings accept?

Not one Leaf fan I have asked, who has tried to trade for Bertuzzi and give up the same type of package explain why Yzerman would pull the trigger?


This is not a package I believe is even close, but I would like to hear your explanation, so I can understand why you beleive this is enough.
1 aoû à 20 h 42
#9
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 703
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who have the Leaf fans tried to trade more? Dermott, Engvall or Mikheyev
 
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