Yeah McCann is who I would take also

Dubas rly screwed up. he should have went 7-3-1. disappointed in him.

by going 4-4-1 he’s literally telling us he’d rather keep Holl than McCann. that’s bs.

Yup, apparently they believe a 20 min a night RD is too hard to find either in free agency or via trade.

I don’t really get it either, if Holl can play with Muzzin absolutely Liljegren can

Yeah they love Holl for some reason

Why protect Holl? Seattle wouldn't take him over Dermott if both were exposed. Holl is not a Top 4 dmen, Muzzin protects him. And Holl is a pending UFA while Dermott is a RFA contract ending. The choice is obvious, the Kraken would select Dermott.

7Fwd
the 40 million guys,
Kerfoot,
McCann,
Brooks (actually if Brooks is left unprotected he'd interest me, he showed lots of 3rd line potential at cheap cost, reminds me of VGK selecting a no name Karlsson who turned into a star player).

3D

Reilly,
Muzzin,
Brodie

This isn't rocket science. I'd screw Dubas by taking the cheaper guy, Dubas thinks he can freely oft load a $3.5 Kerfoot contract so he has more spending money in the UFA market. As a GM I'd say screw you Dubas and stick him with his overpaid team.

lol, maybe they have a deal lined up to trade kerfoot to a poor team that wants to hit the cap floor (arizona for example) and rather than protect him and lose dermott/holl (who idc what people say, are valuable NHLers) - they gave away a future 4th line prospect and a 7th to keep all 3.

they just needed someone who's good enough to warrant taking over any of those 2-3 guys (i.e. mccann)

if they lose mccann to seattle, the team is effectively down hallander and 7th, and then they are free to trade kerfoot for assets lol.

ppl are gonna go ape**** about the 4-4-1 protection strat only for dubas to flip kerfoot and a pick for garland/kuemper next week or something crazy smh

either that or there is a side deal that nobody knows about (plausible, the mccann trade came out of nowhere) and seattle takes kerfoot bc we gave them their head coach or something strange

tl;dr chill out until all of this comes to pass then we can evaluate

Grasping at straws man this sucks Dubas sucks Holl wouldn’t have been selected they would taken Dermott

I completely agree, I really hope that is the case. I always thought that they could have a side deal with SEA to take Kerfoot + Dermott for a player SEA takes that the Leafs want. But if they do lose Kerfoot or McCann so they can protect Holl that is a hard L IMO

I thought you were saying this sarcastically. Yes a 20 minute RD IS hard to find, in particular at 2 million on our tight cap team.

No team wants Kerfoot. The only asset you'll get back is a mid Rd pick.

If they lose one of either McCann/Kerfoot to save Holl, with no side deals or other pending deals I've officially lost all faith in this management team. I was okay with giving up Holl or Dermott for nothing, letting Kerfoot or a decent add to the team in McCann go is just unacceptable.

Holl needs to be sheltered by Muzzin, without Muzzin, Holl is useless. Even losing Holl and keeping both Kerfoot and McCann they would have had money to sign a 1b goalie and a defensive replacement for Holl. Trading Kerfoot for assets was the better option IMO but jesus christ man.

This team has just been so good at getting reliable defenseman to play on their right side for the last 10 years...

They have one who plays solid but not special top 4 minutes at 2 million while we are in a very tight cap situation. That's valuable to the leafs

Nope I think that is exactly what they are thinking. I just don’t agree with it. Holl is perfectly capable when playing with Muzzin but terrible when paired with anyone else. For me, Liljegren could just as easily fill that spot.

IMO valuing Holl or Kerfoot/McCann is not the right play. But that’s just my take

Like id love if lily could do that but he literally hasnt proven himself an nhler. Dermott would be playing that role well before him

leafs have a 6'4" 200+ lbs dman who led the team's PK in ice time, is 35th league wide in terms of ice time, was 3rd on the team blueline in points (without PP time), and regularly plays 20+ minutes against the oppositions toughest competition - and he does all that for $2M for the next two seasons and everybody wants to expose him lol



the underrating of holl continues from last summer I guess

Thanks for this it’s making me feel abit better

right, who wants a 26 year old 30-40 point middle 6 penalty killing centre/winger that only makes league minimum in actual dollars for both this season and next (excluding a $1.9M signing bonus paid in july 2022)

Holl and kerfoot and Mikheyev are all perpetually underrated as everyone either thinks they need some great player to replace them or in kerfoot's spot a ****tier but grittier player (like Martinook or Cizikas).

But people lose track that they're all decent at what they do and mikheyev and Holl are cheap and kerfoot fairly paid.

Mikheyev and holl are both average for their spots (3rd line winger and 2nd pairing d) and paid cheap.

Kerfoot is probably an average 3c and 2w. And paid fairly...

None are special, or great, or special. But people treat them like they're terrible.

If I have to choose between McCann and Holl, I would choose Jared over and over and over again. I’m sorry but Justin Holl is not worth more than McCann and Kerfoot. Love the charts! But Justin Holl plays in the top four but is carried by Jake Muzzin. The Maple Leafs defence improved because they signed T.J. Brodie and Zach Bogosian. Give me Sandin playing on his off side, bring in Liljegren and keep Kerfoot and McCann.

Holl 2021
WAR 29%
EV Offence 42%
EV Defence 36%

You don't trade assets to lose a player that is better than their current 3rd line centre