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Créé par: YeahIDunno
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2021
Publié: 7 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Handshake deal in place with Dougie before expansion draft.

Canes dangle Skjei and Gardiner contracts in front of Seattle. Seattle declines and takes a cheaper player in Fast.

Tampa dangles all sorts of contracts in front of Seattle. Seattle declines and takes a cheaper player in Foote.

Carolina decides to make Tampa's cheap reserve plan for cap compliance more painful. Does it amount to anything more than quick matches?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
25 800 000 $
23 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
87 750 000 $
11 750 000 $
11 000 000 $
22 750 000 $
24 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Colton, Ross2 500 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Barré-Boulet, Alex2 000 000 $
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022
Transactions
1.
CAR
    Future considerations
    DET
    1. Bokk, Dominik
    2. Gardiner, Jake
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
    2.
    CAR
    1. Liljegren, Timothy
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
    TOR
    1. Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
    3.
    CAR
      Protected:
      F: Aho, Svech, Turbo, Necas, Staal, Nino, Geekie
      D: Slavin, Pesce, Bean
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2021
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
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      Logo de LAK
      Logo de STL
      2022
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de ANA
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CBJ
      2023
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2281 500 000 $80 036 916 $0 $937 500 $1 463 084 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
      C
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
      AD
      RFA - 1
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      C, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      850 000 $850 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 3
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 4
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 3
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      725 000 $725 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 1

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      7 juill. 2021 à 3 h 2
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      StevieY19!!
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      As a Red Wings fan, I agree with this trade.
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      7 juill. 2021 à 3 h 4
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      Zero chance the Leafs ever make that trade... A top 4 prospect and a 2nd for a bottom 6er lol
      7 juill. 2021 à 4 h 13
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      Necas is exempt, and Gardiner isn't going to be dumped. When he's healthy, he's great. Use him as LTIR fodder when he's hurt
      7 juill. 2021 à 4 h 15
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      Zero chance the Leafs ever make that trade... A top 4 prospect and a 2nd for a bottom 6er lol


      Foegele would easily be in Toronto's middle six. He'd actually probably be a really good cost-effective replacement for Hyman
      7 juill. 2021 à 5 h 32
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      Detroit accept, deal fits well with our rebuild.
      7 juill. 2021 à 5 h 47
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Foegele would easily be in Toronto's middle six. He'd actually probably be a really good cost-effective replacement for Hyman


      How is a guy who plays 13-14 mins a night and never gotten 0.5ppg worth a really solid d prospect and 2nd round pick?
      7 juill. 2021 à 9 h 2
      #7
      PlusMinus is stupid
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      I still think Detroit gets a 2nd in this deal, not a 3rd...
      7 juill. 2021 à 9 h 3
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Necas is exempt, and Gardiner isn't going to be dumped. When he's healthy, he's great. Use him as LTIR fodder when he's hurt


      Brain fart, wrote Necas, meant Trocheck. Amounts to the same set anyway.

      I really do think they move one of Skjei or Gardiner, if not this offseason then next. $4m is a lot for a 3LD with back issues and other long-term contracts to sign.
      7 juill. 2021 à 9 h 11
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      How is a guy who plays 13-14 mins a night and never gotten 0.5ppg worth a really solid d prospect and 2nd round pick?


      Other Leafs ACGM have asked for Foegs for:
      - a 2nd and SDA
      - a 3rd and Holl

      This value certainly can be adjusted, but it's not entirely out of line with other things I've seen.
      7 juill. 2021 à 10 h 31
      #10
      More Finns More Wins
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      The Tatar signing seems very unnecessary when Lorentz is still here, and you have other players who could make the team next year.

      I don't think Colton is worth a 2nd, and it would do the same thing for Tampa if you bumped it down to 2.1M, in the range of 3rd round compensation.

      If you don't sign Tatar, there's your 4 million back to keep Gardiner, who may LTIRetire because of his back issues and not be an issue when it comes to cap and Bokk, who could also make the jump and be an NHL forward next year. If Gardiner is healthy, then they could bury his contract in the AHL for 1.1MM in cap relief. Holding on to Gardiner for another year also lessens the cost if they absolutely need to ship him out next year, because a team would only be taking 1 year of contract.

      Lillegren would be a nice add, but I don't think Toronto does that with that 2nd there. Take the 2nd out and I feel like then it's a fair deal, or at least one that Toronto accepts.
      7 juill. 2021 à 10 h 49
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      How is a guy who plays 13-14 mins a night and never gotten 0.5ppg worth a really solid d prospect and 2nd round pick?


      He shows up in the playoffs.... something no one else in Toronto (Spezza aside) did
      7 juill. 2021 à 10 h 54
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      Quoting: YeahIDunno
      Brain fart, wrote Necas, meant Trocheck. Amounts to the same set anyway.

      I really do think they move one of Skjei or Gardiner, if not this offseason then next. $4m is a lot for a 3LD with back issues and other long-term contracts to sign.


      Makes more sense, I was wondering why Trocheck was exposed and yet Fast was selected.

      If one of them is to be moved, it will be Skjei in the expansion draft. He's been FANTASTIC in Carolina, specifically shorthanded. He'll be exposed because Bean, but it's very likely Fast (who has done very little) will be deferred for the much more usable Skjei. Even at his higher cap hit, he's a better player.
      7 juill. 2021 à 13 h 43
      #13
      Your deal is bad
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      He shows up in the playoffs.... something no one else in Toronto (Spezza aside) did


      He did show up in the playoffs in 2019, but in the last 2 years, he only has 3 points. Not exactly showing up.
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      7 juill. 2021 à 14 h 21
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      Terry_AkiSauce
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      He shows up in the playoffs.... something no one else in Toronto (Spezza aside) did


      Lol yeah wow you're right, 3 points in his last 18 playoff games... Much better than everyone in Toronto other than Spezza. Hating on the Leafs for no reason lol don't see Carolina lifting the cup this year either
      7 juill. 2021 à 14 h 23
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      Quoting: YeahIDunno
      Other Leafs ACGM have asked for Foegs for:
      - a 2nd and SDA
      - a 3rd and Holl

      This value certainly can be adjusted, but it's not entirely out of line with other things I've seen.


      That's crazy to me... There's zero chance the Leafs would give that up. Holl is a top 4 guy at $2M. Unless the Leafs go 7/3/1 and want to trade a dman pre expansion for a forward but they could get a much better forward for Holl/Lily and a 2nd/3rd pick
      9 juill. 2021 à 6 h 41
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      Lol yeah wow you're right, 3 points in his last 18 playoff games... Much better than everyone in Toronto other than Spezza. Hating on the Leafs for no reason lol don't see Carolina lifting the cup this year either


      Carolina won a round... Foegele was 6 last time Toronto did that
       
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