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Créé par: DEdward

Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2021

Publié: 5 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

trades before expansion
Benson for Smith
Jones for Strome

Larsson deal after expansion

protection list
7-3-1
McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Strome, Smith
Nurse, Bear, Lagesson
Skinner

Enough cap flexibility left for next year to sign RFAs/UFAs Nurse, Bear, Puljujarvi, Strome and room for rookies Holloway and Broberg to make team.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Skinner, Stuart	2	850 000 $
Benson, Tyler	2	850 000 $
Marody, Cooper	1	850 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer	2	1 750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Larsson, Adam	4	4 000 000 $
Smith, Mike	1	2 000 000 $
Oleksiak, Jamie	3	3 750 000 $
Ullmark, Linus	5	4 500 000 $
Goodrow, Barclay	4	4 000 000 $
Bonino, Nick	1	2 750 000 $
Glendening, Luke	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

EDM

Strome, Dylan

CHI

Jones, Caleb
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

EDM

Smith, Reilly (1 000 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

salary dump. they took a 3rd for Schmidt last year.

VGK

Benson, Tyler

EDM

Seattle are actually taking Neal at 50% retained and buying out. costing each team just under $1M per year.
Seattle gets a 2nd and an almost NHL ready D prospect.

SEA

Neal, James (1 000 000 $ retained)
Samorukov, Dmitri
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

EDM

Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (TBL)

Détails additionnels:

TB needs a cheap experienced back up

TBL

Stalock, Alex

Rachats de contrats

Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Mikko Koskinen: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)
James Neal: 1 000 000 $ (133.33%)

Enfoui

Kyle Turris: 525 000 $ (1 650 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	80 816 839 $	669 339 $	907 500 $	683 161 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Puljujärvi, Jesse 1 175 000 $1 175 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 8	Strome, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Smith, Reilly 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Goodrow, Barclay 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 6	Bonino, Nick 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Yamamoto, Kailer 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Archibald, Josh 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan 834 167 $834 167 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 1	Kassian, Zack 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Shore, Devin 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Glendening, Luke 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 5 600 000 $5 600 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Bear, Ethan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ G UFA - 4
Oleksiak, Jamie 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 5	Larsson, Adam 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Smith, Mike 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Russell, Kris 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2
Lagesson, William 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2

5 juill. 2021 à 16 h 46

#26

CD282

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Quoting: DEdward

What if anything do you thinknis fair compensation for all teams involved?

Just buyout Neal and keep your assets.

5 juill. 2021 à 16 h 46

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coga16

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Quoting: uphere

Klefbom will not be healthy to start next season and it has yet to be determined whether he will be able to play again.

Its a given that Nurse, and Bear will be protected during the expansion draft. What is not known is whether the Oilers will sign either Larsson or Barrie before Seattle is given an exclusive window in which to negotiate with UFAs. Rumor has it that Larsson is the priority in Edmonton, if his contract is extended then he will be protected as well. If Holland chooses a 7-3-1 protection strategy, he has no room to include Klefbom or Jones.

Given their current roster and prospect pool, it seems reasonable to project their d-core might look like Nurse/Bouchard, Broberg/Bear, Samorukov/Kesselring or Kemp. Samorukov may be ready for limited NHL exposure next season, but Broberg is probably at least one season away from regular NHL action. Signing Larsson provides time for Kesselring or Kemp to learn the pro game. With Klefbom's future in doubt, Holland has to find a veteran 2LD. He can't gamble on Klefbom being back because his team needs to improve now while not giving up its future.

that is what I said originally, the OP mentioned that he might retire. So i just mentioned one hypothetical merit around Klefboms value even if he does reitre,

5 juill. 2021 à 16 h 47

#28

coga16

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Quoting: DEdward

It doesn't help Tampa as they are more than $5M over the cap next year with 12F 5D and 2G signed and no Young players they can send down without risking waivers.
It could work for some other teams, I'm not going through every team, but that still leaves the matter of still paying out the $8.25M owed to Klefbom. After the last year I'm not sure there the apatite for that.

I just said Tampa as an example of a team wanting to use LTIR money to their advantage, im not saying he makes sense for them. you are getting caught up on minor details
plus not taking into fact that they have to lose someone in XD too, so they their cap space overages will be lesser

example they could lose Johnson in XD, and if needed trade for LTIR money to help even further with their RFA contracts in foote etc

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5 juill. 2021 à 17 h 2

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uphere

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Quoting: coga16

that is what I said originally, the OP mentioned that he might retire. So i just mentioned one hypothetical merit around Klefboms value even if he does reitre,

Sure there are hypothetical advantages in manipulating the LTIR, but the probability of either Edmonton or Seattle needing that leverage seems unlikely. It is rumored that Klefbom's contract is not insured, so Seattle might do the Oilers a favor by selecting him. Doing so might save the OEG over $8M in real dollars.

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5 juill. 2021 à 21 h 8

#30

VGKNation702

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Lol we’re not giving up Smith for nothing; and especially not retaining a DOLLAR. Come on…

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7 juill. 2021 à 2 h 22

#31

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DEdward

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lol we’re not giving up Smith for nothing; and especially not retaining a DOLLAR. Come on…

as mentioned in another comment. Vagas seems to be in on every big name every year and keep pushing themselves up against the cap. 10 times this year they couldn't dress a full line-up because of thier cap issues. Smith is in the final year of his deal and could/should be expendable because of his cap hit.
Wishful thinking they retain salary but Bennson isn't nothing. He is a prospect that is a point per game player in the AHL and NHL ready for bottom 6 at what will be slightly above league average. The type of player sent back in a cap dump trade. Smith isn't a cap dump on a team with room but in Vagas he is over paid.

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