Sharks should trade Hertl to my favorite team

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Créé par: Anus_McLeod

Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2021

Publié: 30 juin 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I have seen his name floated a bit but would not be surprised if nothing happens and the Sharks try to re-sign him. However, I think he'd be an amazing fit for the Avs and potentially put them over the top. Thus, I'm giving it a go.

I had a really tough time valuing Hertl with the pieces available (pretending I knew what was in Sakic's head), so go easy on me. Posting to see what others think and if there is any way he is even moved.

Note the following: (1) I hate, hate, hate losing Barron, as I think he was a steal and will be a stud for a long time to come, but it could be worth it for this guy (especially if they get him at a lower salary for one big go for it type year). (2) I don't think Newhook or Byram are on the table for damn near anyone, so I tried to make it happen without them. (3) I would only do something like this if Hertl extends. Barron plus is not on the table for a rental (if at all).

Also interested in what folks think of the Edmonton trade. I like Tullio as an intermediate bet to become a good bottom six player, but there is obviously some risk there. Oilers add to their depth.

I already know some will hate the depth signings of Stastny and Bellemare, but I like to hoard Cs so I did it anyway.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Jost, Tyson	2	1 750 000 $
Makar, Cale	7	9 250 000 $
Timmins, Conor	2	950 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Grubauer, Philipp	5	5 000 000 $
Landeskog, Gabriel	7	6 850 000 $
Saad, Brandon	5	4 850 000 $
Stastny, Paul	1	3 500 000 $
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard	1	1 200 000 $

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COL

SEA

Donskoi, Joonas

COL

Tullio, Tyler [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

EDM

COL

Hertl, Tomas (2 525 000 $ retained)

SJS

Barron, Justin
Bowers, Shane
Burakovsky, André
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	81 843 963 $	1 741 463 $	3 350 000 $	-343 963 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Landeskog, Gabriel 6 850 000 $6 850 000 $ AG, C UFA - 8	MacKinnon, Nathan 6 300 000 $6 300 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Rantanen, Mikko 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ AD, C UFA - 4
Newhook, Alex 908 333 $908 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AG RFA - 2	Hertl, Tomas 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Saad, Brandon 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5
Stastny, Paul 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Nichushkin, Valeri 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Jost, Tyson 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ C UFA - 2	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	O'Connor, Logan 725 000 $725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Toews, Devon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Makar, Cale 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Grubauer, Philipp 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 6
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 6	Timmins, Conor 950 000 $950 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Francouz, Pavel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Johnson, Erik 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Byram, Bowen 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DG/DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MacDonald, Jacob 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Megna, Jayson 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2

30 juin 2021 à 15 h 13

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As an oilers fan I’d do it would you take someone like khaira back tho and maybe make it a third?

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 15

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You’re probably losing Girard or Toews since you have to protect EJ with an NMC and Makar. Seattle would take one of them over Donskoi.

30 juin 2021 à 15 h 16

yikes

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Hertl would only be moved at TDL if we’re bad. Likely won’t be cheap if so because I highly suggest that there would be a bidding war/ multiple teams (I see Tampa going hard for Hertl if that’s the case; with Goodrow already fitting perfectly from SJ). Extension likely adds more value. Will be interesting this TDL if the Sharks suck again because they’re bound to sell if so.

Kane is likely the only big name that would be moved if it all before the season.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 20

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Quoting: vikhodush

You’re probably losing Girard or Toews since you have to protect EJ with an NMC and Makar. Seattle would take one of them over Donskoi.

EJ has already agreed to waive his NMC

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 23

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Modifié 30 juin 2021 à 15 h 59

Quoting: oilnate

As an oilers fan I’d do it would you take someone like khaira back tho and maybe make it a third?

In my mind Colorado is more interested in a Tullio type who can provide upside in a couple years. Khaira would just be a depth piece that could even end up a healthy scratch.

Tullio, a 3rd, and a late pick might be doable.

30 juin 2021 à 15 h 25

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

In my mind Colorado is more interested in a Tullio type who can provide upside in a couple years. Khaira would just be a depth piece that could even end up a healthy scratch.

Telling, a 3rd, and a late pick might be doable.

I just meant that khaira would be a cheap depth option instead of bringing back bellemare

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 27

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Quoting: yikes

Very fair. I was thinking it might be more TDL too.

30 juin 2021 à 15 h 29

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Quoting: oilnate

I just meant that khaira would be a cheap depth option instead of bringing back bellemare

I think they would prefer to get picks/prospects and bring back a guy that they know fits well. I see your logic though. Just not sure that would be something Sakic does.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 36

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No Newhook no Hertl imo. He’s so valuable to us, the only way I’d trade him is severe overpayment or deadline time and he refuses to resign with us. This could work at the deadline In that case maybe, but currently no way.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 38

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Quoting: papishark

More or less what I figured. I think they need to at least see how the year goes before doing something crazy.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 41

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

More or less what I figured. I think they need to at least see how the year goes before doing something crazy.

Agreed. Hertl has said he wants to remain in SJ and depending on the contract I’d love to keep him around.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 43

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I like what you've done for the most part but i don't really like the stas signing. You've burried jost after he finally had a good year and i think kaut could make more of an impact than stas at this point in his career. I think bringing back belly for another year is fine, he played pretty well on PK and 4th line minutes. If we needed anything else i'd say it is more a new calvert. I know oconnor fills that role but having a 2nd one incase one goes down with injury would be nice over stas.

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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 52

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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker

Fair on Stastny. I like Josty more than mosty, so I get that part. I like that he's a good setup and fo guy though, which adds somethingthe team could use. And he may be willing to do a 1 year deal where others aren't. But yeah, I hear you.

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30 juin 2021 à 16 h 33

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Quoting: papishark

Agreed. Hertl has said he wants to remain in SJ and depending on the contract I’d love to keep him around.

Hoping for a Nuge like contract now 🤞 was predicted like 8M AAV as free agent and got 5.125M to stay.

But if we are gonna trade him this deal isn't bad, but I'd want the 1st rounder instead

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30 juin 2021 à 17 h 34

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Quoting: Whiskerz

Hoping for a Nuge like contract now 🤞 was predicted like 8M AAV as free agent and got 5.125M to stay.

But if we are gonna trade him this deal isn't bad, but I'd want the 1st rounder instead

I think I'd fight pretty hard against the first unless you swap in Helleson (or even Graves) for Barron. I think that's a worse deal for SJ though.

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