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Reshaping Calgary

Créé par: Dutchies
Publié: 26 juin 2021 à 23 h 14
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 186/186 (100%)
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Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Garland, ConorCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-0 $111---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Monahan, SeanFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 375 000 $111---0000--
Kylington, OliverFlames de CalgaryLNH-0 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial31 411 383 $1226443712
Variation-6 375 000 $11100-1
Final25 036 383 $ (↓)13 (↑)27 (↑)45 (↑)3711 (↓)000

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gaudreau, JohnnyFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 750 000 $111---0000--
Monahan, SeanFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 375 000 $111---0000--
Kylington, OliverFlames de CalgaryLNH-0 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Voracek, JakubFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-8 250 000 $111---0000--
Garland, ConorCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-0 $111---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphiePHI)---100------
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial14 525 000 $1324433910
Variation4 875 000 $-1-1-1101
Final19 400 000 $ (↑)12 (↓)23 (↓)42 (↓)4 (↑)911 (↑)000

Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphieFlyers de Philadelphie

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Voracek, JakubFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-8 250 000 $111---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphiePHI)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gaudreau, JohnnyFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 750 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 085 477 $1737523613
Variation1 500 000 $000-100
Final14 585 477 $ (↑)1737522 (↓)613000
26 juin 2021 à 23 h 22
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That is terrible for calgary that doesn’t even get gaudreau alone. The flames very easily decline
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26 juin 2021 à 23 h 33
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That is terrible for calgary that doesn’t even get gaudreau alone. The flames very easily decline


I used to think MTL fans were the most delusional. I'm seriously starting to think Flames fans are on par with that.
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27 juin 2021 à 0 h 0
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I used to think MTL fans were the most delusional. I'm seriously starting to think Flames fans are on par with that.


You clearly have very little hockey knowledge if you think that gets a good 2c and an elite left winger. If you think that’s a good trade just do me a favour and never reply to me again
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 3
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You clearly have very little hockey knowledge if you think that gets a good 2c and an elite left winger. If you think that’s a good trade just do me a favour and never reply to me again


LMFAO. Dude, I have more hockey knowledge in my pinky finger than you have in your entire brain. You're letting your love for your team cloud your judgement.
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 10
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LMFAO. Dude, I have more hockey knowledge in my pinky finger than you have in your entire brain. You're letting your love for your team cloud your judgement.


Voracek is old and makes a lot of money so he doesn’t have much value. Garland is a good piece and I’d say he has the same value as monahan. Gaudreau has way more value than voracek and a first.
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 12
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Voracek is old and makes a lot of money so he doesn’t have much value. Garland is a good piece and I’d say he has the same value as monahan. Gaudreau has way more value than voracek and a first.


Yeah, but you're forgetting the 3 way brings them Garland and a 4th as well.
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 14
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Yeah, but you're forgetting the 3 way brings them Garland and a 4th as well.


Monahan = garland and a 4

Gaudreau>>>>>> voracek and a 1st

Flames very easily decline
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: flamesfan
Monahan = garland and a 4

Gaudreau>>>>>> voracek and a 1st

Flames very easily decline


But Gaudreau isn't >>> than that. He's got a year left and will be gone as a UFA. He's going back to the states, whether you like it or not. He's been down trending for 2 years now. Maybe PHI throws in a prospect, but not much more.
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 20
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But Gaudreau isn't >>> than that. He's got a year left and will be gone as a UFA. He's going back to the states, whether you like it or not. He's been down trending for 2 years now. Maybe PHI throws in a prospect, but not much more.


Gaudreau literally has said multiple times he wants to stay in Calgary for his whole career and is going to sign there long term. I trust him way more than I trust you. You have no idea what your talking about
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 26
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Gaudreau literally has said multiple times he wants to stay in Calgary for his whole career and is going to sign there long term. I trust him way more than I trust you. You have no idea what your talking about


OK LOL, we'll see how that plays out.....
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 30
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OK LOL, we'll see how that plays out.....


Yea we will see gaudreau sign 8x8
27 juin 2021 à 0 h 35
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Yea we will see gaudreau sign 8x8


IF they can get it done, good on them. But you're gonna have competition, including his home state.
27 juin 2021 à 1 h 12
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Just to throw in another viewpoint, I don’t think Arizona has a use for this return from Calgary. Sean doesn’t really move the needle, he probably can’t be flipped for much, just doesn’t seem to fit much with the direction they’re heading. They need picks and a lot of them
27 juin 2021 à 13 h 30
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I think Calgary needs a new core, and their current sub-average tandem of Gaudreau and Monahan is even slightly better than Garland and Voracek, who would fare much worse if tasked with carrying the entire offensive push of the Flames. I also think the Coyotes aren't exactly keen on moving Garland, he's one of the few bright spots down tere
27 juin 2021 à 20 h 43
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Calgary gets shelled on this one, I would absolutely love to get Gaudreau for a 1st and a terrible cap hit
28 juin 2021 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: flamesfan
Voracek is old and makes a lot of money so he doesn’t have much value. Garland is a good piece and I’d say he has the same value as monahan. Gaudreau has way more value than voracek and a first.


homer much?
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28 juin 2021 à 18 h 7
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homer much?


Idiot much?
28 juin 2021 à 18 h 11
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Idiot much?


You know Voracek is only 31 right? That's a whopping 4 years older than Gaudreau.............
28 juin 2021 à 20 h 17
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Idiot much?


not debating Voacek's age or skill; just that Gadreau isn't Gretzky. You're not getting a top 6 forward AND a 1st rounder for him.
28 juin 2021 à 21 h 39
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not debating Voacek's age or skill; just that Gadreau isn't Gretzky. You're not getting a top 6 forward AND a 1st rounder for him.


Well then your not getting him
28 juin 2021 à 21 h 39
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You know Voracek is only 31 right? That's a whopping 4 years older than Gaudreau.............


That makes voraceks value even worse considering how much he’s declining at only 31 he played like he’s 38.
28 juin 2021 à 22 h 30
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That makes voraceks value even worse considering how much he’s declining at only 31 he played like he’s 38.


Dude, keep burying your head in the sand.

Vorachek - 43 in 53 0.81 PPG
Gaudreau - 49 in 56 0.88 PPG

Both players declined this year, but your Calgary bias blinds you to any trade unless your team is the clear cut winner.
28 juin 2021 à 22 h 40
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Dude, keep burying your head in the sand.

Vorachek - 43 in 53 0.81 PPG
Gaudreau - 49 in 56 0.88 PPG

Both players declined this year, but your Calgary bias blinds you to any trade unless your team is the clear cut winner.


Gaudreau had 40 primary points and voracek only had 20. So that’s a big difference. Gaudreau is miles better than voracek. I’ll bet you think Barrie is the best defensmen in the nhl.
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28 juin 2021 à 22 h 51
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Gaudreau had 40 primary points and voracek only had 20. So that’s a big difference. Gaudreau is miles better than voracek. I’ll bet you think Barrie is the best defensmen in the nhl.


LOL, Tyson Barrie isn't a defensemen, he's a glorified 4th forward that is average in his own end. Besides, everyone knows Morgan Rielly is the best Dman in the NHL.

You can say whatever you want, but you've clearly proven your bias towards your teams players. I'm sure you feel Gaudeau is worth a guy like Huberdeau or Rantanen too.
28 juin 2021 à 22 h 58
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LOL, Tyson Barrie isn't a defensemen, he's a glorified 4th forward that is average in his own end. Besides, everyone knows Morgan Rielly is the best Dman in the NHL.



You can say whatever you want, but you've clearly proven your bias towards your teams players. I'm sure you feel Gaudeau is worth a guy like Huberdeau or Rantanen too.


Skill wise gaudreau is as good as those two but value wise those two are higher due to contracts and age
 
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