Gibson to Pittsburgh

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Créé par: FLPensFan

Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2021

Publié: 5 juin 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I'm curious as to what Anaheim fans would think of the Gibson deal I have listed here. Pittsburgh has long wanted to bring one of the Pittsburgh natives (Saad and Gibson mainly) to the Penguins, and now Pittsburgh may want to solidify their goaltending. Pittsburgh is also looking to add some skilled size up front. Guentzel is a good goal scoring forward, but Pittsburgh is going to have to give up a decent forward to change their roster makeup. I think Guentzel may be a bit "old" if Anaheim is going to go full rebuild, but, Anaheim could flip Guentzel to another team and should be able to get a good return, such as a 1st, high prospect, and roster player (or bring in a 3rd team to get those resources for Guentzel in the Gibson trade). Marino would add another solid RH d-man behind Drysdale. Penguins would have to take on Kesler's dead contract to help even out the cap hit. Fair deal, or too one-sided in either direction?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Comtois, Maxime	2	1 500 000 $
Blueger, Teddy	2	1 500 000 $
Zohorna, Radim	2	800 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach	2	1 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gaudreau, Frédérick	2	850 000 $
Ceci, Cody	3	3 000 000 $
Coleman, Blake	2	2 250 000 $

Transactions

PIT

ANA

PIT

SEA

Zucker, Jason

Détails additionnels:

Zucker gets selected in expansion draft.

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (NYI)

NJD

Pettersson, Marcus

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 166 667 $

Enfoui

Juuso Riikola: 25 000 $ (1 150 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	64 369 697 $	0 $	212 500 $	17 130 303 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Comtois, Maxime 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG RFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
McCann, Jared 2 940 000 $2 940 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff 2 636 364 $2 636 364 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Coleman, Blake 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6	Blueger, Teddy 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Poulin, Samuel 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 3
Aston-Reese, Zach 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Gaudreau, Frédérick 850 000 $850 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Gibson, John 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 6
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 5	Ceci, Cody 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	DeSmith, Casey 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 1	Friedman, Mark 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Angello, Anthony 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1		Kesler, Ryan 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad 750 000 $750 000 $ DD UFA - 1		Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1
Zohorna, Radim 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

5 juin 2021 à 22 h 16

justaBoss

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Interesting proposal but I think Comtois is the deal breaker. I don't see Ducks dealing him.

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 21

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Coleman gets 4 x $4,000,000 And Anaheim says Hell No on the Gibson trade.

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 29

Radu47

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With Comtois leading ANA in scoring this year and outscoring Couture, Kreider, etc. he could go to arbitration and get about 5M$ pretty easily

Reinhart, Labanc, Bura, RStrome, etc. as precedent

An arbitrator would or did give them all similar $

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 30

OldNYIfan

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Take out Comtois and Jarry and, since you don't have a 2021 first, add Legare and your 2022 first. Understand that we'd probably prefer you to say No, thanks. We actually think that we'll be contenders again before Gibson's six years are up.

5 juin 2021 à 22 h 30

NHLfan10506

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Double the Coleman salary. And Seattle isn’t taking Zucker.

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 37

FLPensFan

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I can respect someone saying no, that you may be contenders again before Gibson's deal is up, and that fact that it is unlikely Anaheim would deal Comtois, BUT...saying Guentzel, Marino, Legare, and a 2022 1st for Gibson is absolutely ridiculous. Gibson is good, and wouldn't be cheap to acquire, but, he's not going to pull in 4 premium assets either.

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 40

Radu47

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I guess it's sorta like the uncertainty of what Pittsburgh do after Jarry/DeSmith vs. the certainty of Gibson being solid but likely underwhelming

Maybe a contending and defensively solid team can revitalize his currently kinda stagnating career right now? Seems definitely possible. Idk.

I'd say worth a chance- could turn out nicely

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 43

Radu47

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Double the Coleman salary. And Seattle isn’t taking Zucker.

Yeah seems almost certainly Bluegs

Unless something really crazy happens

Like protecting Tanev

😳

They're not gonna protect Tanev. Right? Right??

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5 juin 2021 à 22 h 50

FLPensFan

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Quoting: Radu47

Yeah seems almost certainly Bluegs

Unless something really crazy happens

Like protecting Tanev

😳

They're not gonna protect Tanev. Right? Right??

It's funny. There were a lot of Pittsburgh fans angry with 6 years at 3.5M AAV for Tanev when we signed him. I can see that a bit without knowing the player. After coming here and playing for 2 years, he's worth every penny. Just because Pittsburgh is using him on the 4th doesn't mean he is a 4th liner. He probably should be getting at least 3rd line minutes, and I wouldn't even be opposed to him playing with Crosby to open up some space for him, kind of like Kunitz did several years ago.

Pittsburgh better protect him. After trading Hornqvist, Tanev is kind of the heart and soul of the team. Gives 110% every night.

5 juin 2021 à 22 h 50

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: FLPensFan

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Semyon Varlamov would cost? Only two premium assets?

People consistently fail to understand what premium goaltenders are worth because they're never traded -- precisely because they're too expensive.

5 juin 2021 à 23 h 19

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FLPensFan

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Varlamov is tough, because he's 6 years older than Gibson, and signed for 4 less years. On the plus side, he's got better playoff numbers, and his deal is cheaper than Gibson. If Varlamov was a UFA this summer, he'd probably be able to ask for 7-8M AAV easy.

If I was Pittsburgh making an offer for Varlamov, probably Legare, the 2022 1st, and a younger, lesser player with upside like Jared McCann. And I fully believe that is likely not enough to get it done, either. If Pittsburgh had a better prospect pool, I'd expect they would need to offer a better prospect.

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