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Créé par: knuxles
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2021
Publié: 3 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Who we draft with our new 1st round pick:
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
32 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (1 375 000 $ retained)
  2. Gordin, Alexander [Liste de réserve]
  3. Hillis, Cameron
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
2.
3.
MTL
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Weber, Shea
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
This one would be huge for Nashville and Montreal. Nashville essentially gets more cap space which they desperately need. In addition, Nashville's salary cap penalty from when they initially traded Weber would be eased as long as he retires as a Predator. For this, the habs also exchange their 2nd from Tampa for Nashville's 2021 first-round pick. It makes sense in that Nashville has no choice but to accept.
4.
MTL
  1. Neal, James (2 875 000 $ retained)
EDM
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
6.
BUF
  1. Dobes, Jakub [Liste de réserve]
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. Harris, Jordan [Liste de réserve]
  4. Poehling, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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Logo de WSH
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
Logo de PHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2023
Logo de MTL
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Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $72 649 643 $597 561 $1 475 000 $8 850 357 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Predators de Nashville
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
G
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2

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3 juin 2021 à 10 h 56
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That Leaf trade is awful, we don't even have the cap
3 juin 2021 à 10 h 57
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Why are we trading Kulak AND a pick for a washed-up James Neal not even worth half his contract
3 juin 2021 à 10 h 59
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Quoting: MatthewsIsJesus
That Leaf trade is awful, we don't even have the cap


Your trading Marner this offseason, so you actually do have the cap space. Plus Holl, Amirov, Foligno, Simmons, Kerfoot, Engvall will all be gone. That's actually a lot of cap space plus we would retain his salary so you wouldn't have to pay the 5mil he is getting paid rn.
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 1
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Why are we trading Kulak AND a pick for a washed-up James Neal not even worth half his contract


To then trade him for a 2nd. We won't actually play James Neal. It clears up cap space in the long run by giving him to Toronto. The Maple Leafs will probably need him and Chariot after they get rid of Marner,Holl, Amirov, Foligno, Simmons, Kerfoot, and Engvall this offseason.
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 4
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NSH trade is awful
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3 juin 2021 à 11 h 4
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Quoting: knuxles
To then trade him for a 2nd. We won't actually play James Neal. It clears up cap space in the long run by giving him to Toronto. The Maple Leafs will probably need him and Chariot after they get rid of Marner,Holl, Amirov, Foligno, Simmons, Kerfoot, and Engvall this offseason.


James Neal has no value at all and is as effective as a 1m$ fourth-liner signed in free agency.
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 9
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The Preds will give the Habs a 7th, if MTL fans stop pretending NSH has no choice but to accept whatever awful Weber trade they can dream up.
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3 juin 2021 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: SevenLeg
James Neal has no value at all and is as effective as a 1m$ fourth-liner signed in free agency.


Correct, Maple Leafs lack depth even with all the players soon to be traded. He is exactly what they need, the only problem is his cap. We take care of that and throw Chariot in the deal. We can prob get a 2nd for Chariot and a 4th for Neal considering they don't even have a 3rd. Once they trade all those players, they will get a lot more draft picks. They need to trade the ones they got for depth players before then. I see what you're saying tho, its a long shot but I feel like it would be good for all three teams involved (Oilers, Habs, Leafs). Oilers get more cap space, we get more picks, and Leafs get more depth.
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 24
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Quoting: AnalyticalGM
NSH trade is awful


Like I said, it would actually help u long the run. You'd gain+1mil in cap space and you would no longer worry about that huge salary penalty once Weber retires. Duchane doesn't even match well with your team ... he played far better for literally every other team he's played on. Tbh he kinda sucks playing for Nashville. Montreal has the players to help him play better. It's a win-win for both teams in the long run. it just looks ridiculous at first glance until u dive in deeper, then it actually makes sense.
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 27
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Even with retention, Drouin is a net-negative. I think it would require more from MTL
3 juin 2021 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: knuxles
Like I said, it would actually help u long the run. You'd gain+1mil in cap space and you would no longer worry about that huge salary penalty once Weber retires. Duchane doesn't even match well with your team ... he played far better for literally every other team he's played on. Tbh he kinda sucks playing for Nashville. Montreal has the players to help him play better. It's a win-win for both teams in the long run. it just looks ridiculous at first glance until u dive in deeper, then it actually makes sense.


Might wanna check your math before you posted this. Duchene's cap hit is $8,000,000 and Weber's is $7,857,143. That's only a difference of $142,857, not $1,000,000


Quoting: knuxles
Correct, Maple Leafs lack depth even with all the players soon to be traded. He is exactly what they need, the only problem is his cap. We take care of that and throw Chariot in the deal. We can prob get a 2nd for Chariot and a 4th for Neal considering they don't even have a 3rd. Once they trade all those players, they will get a lot more draft picks. They need to trade the ones they got for depth players before then. I see what you're saying tho, its a long shot but I feel like it would be good for all three teams involved (Oilers, Habs, Leafs). Oilers get more cap space, we get more picks, and Leafs get more depth.


Also false. Leafs have great depth actually and it was one of their strongest assets this season. That wasn't their issue. Their issue was the PP and top end offence not producing. Shanahan also said there's only be tinkering, but they're coming back with the majority of the roster. So their depth will still not lack next season. Also, Neal is basically a non option for most teams at this point. He has virtually no foot speed to keep up with the pace of play and all he has is a shot that seems to have gone missing. Leafs management has always made it a priority to get good skaters. Neal wouldn't even crack the Marlies lineup in Toronto. Chiarot wouldn't even crack the Leafs roster. So you're trying to give them players that they don't want or need for no reason.

Do your research next time first.
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3 juin 2021 à 11 h 44
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Quoting: knuxles
Like I said, it would actually help u long the run. You'd gain+1mil in cap space and you would no longer worry about that huge salary penalty once Weber retires. Duchane doesn't even match well with your team ... he played far better for literally every other team he's played on. Tbh he kinda sucks playing for Nashville. Montreal has the players to help him play better. It's a win-win for both teams in the long run. it just looks ridiculous at first glance until u dive in deeper, then it actually makes sense.


Well that's not true... Duchene was a very good player for NSH in transition and generating scoring chances. His issue was he didnt have the points to back it up, but considering majority of his season was paired with (Jarnkrok, Grimaldi, Haula, Cousins = total TOI 139.61). He played with Forsberg and Johansen last 4 games of playoffs where he really came into his own (only proving the face he needs to play with skilled wingers). The problem is NSH has two 8m centers who have struggled to produce points.

That being said, taking on Weber's contract doesn't help this team in the slightest. Large cap hit, decrease in performance, already have 3 RHD (2 of which are young and need the TOI).
NSH will eventually trade for Weber, but I doubt he will play any games as he will be a LTIR designation. When they do trade for Weber it will not be for a large return as some MTL fans might suggest.
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