Not in the playoffs he isn't he's invisible

Take a look at the draft picks above that Dubas has available to make his team better in the off season.
Then click on the Habs page and see the picks Bergevin has accumulated.

You went all in and took your shot. You missed. Again. Dubas and Keefe will both get fired. And rightfully so.

LOL... I think you need to rethink what you know about hockey. You can't judge that when McDavid is the only player on his team that does anything, so the other teams can double team him and shut him down easier. But when you play Tampa, guys like Kucherov get more open ice because the other team has to defend other players too.

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What I actually think is that the Leafs would be lucky to get someone like Jones for Marner. Marner is overrated, overpaid, and consistently fails to live up to the hype when the games matter most.

Don’t expect to get much, clearing his $11mm cap hit will be easier said than done, especially given the flat cap for the foreseeable future.

I agree players like Marner (and Eichel) are a really difficult trade. Almost all teams would have send similar money back in a trade. And the few teams that have cap would prefer to sign a UFA or two and keep their players or picks than trade for 10m plus players.

why does Dubas need draft picks. He has got Rielly, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and prospects, Sandin, Liligren and robertson as trade chips

not all trades revolve around picks

Dubas and Keefe will not be fired. Dubas did all he could and the team let him down, Keefe did all he could the team let him down.

Both guys have only been there for a short time and have shown what they can do. Its time for the core of the team to change not management for the billionth time cause that does not solve anything

Neither of them will be fired actually. You're overreacting if you think either will.

Looking at it with a rationale point of view, it's not the time to fire either of them.

Dubas has been the official GM for 3 seasons. He's given this team everything the need to win. Everything. That's not his fault they didn't perform when it was needed. He also started of his GM career rough with extremely bad contracts that he had to find a way to dump and he found a way to create a top team in the league.

Keefe has been with the team for a season and a half. Last season isn't so much on him, by the time he came in the team was already struggling and he didn't have much time to implement his systems before things were shutdown due to COVID and then all of a sudden they were thrown into a playoff bubble. Then this season when he has the team for the whole season, he has them with the 6th best offence in the league and 7th best defence. Which is a MAJOR improvement over what they were under Babcock before. I think he's on the hot seat for next playoffs because I think he did a very poor job at managing the bench this playoffs, but now is not the time to fire him after basically 1 season behind the bench. Coaches have more of a leash than that.


You talk about the lack of draft picks but then seem to forget about the strong prospect system that Dubas has built from years prior. It's currently a top 10 prospect pipeline with many intriguing prospects that can be moved for help. That's why Dubas went all in this season - because they've spent the last few seasons developing their system and it wasn't needed this year. The actual roster turnover isn't going to be huge like many people on here think. It's just not possible. Look at San Jose all those years of not living up to expectations and they kept their roster in tact and eventually made it to the finals - it takes time and not every team can win every season.

My best guess is that it's likely Rielly gone this off-season. Matthews and Tavares aren't going anywhere. Marner is too tough to move to get full value (they'd be selling low right now) and he's still a top 5 scorer in the league. Nylander just proved he's more valuable than people give him credit for and unless a team massively overpays then he's not going anywhere. That leaves Rielly as the lone guy left of the leadership core (although I'd argue Muzzin is in the leadership group and maybe needs to go but Dubas brought him in so it's highly unlikely). Rielly is the last remaining player that Dubas didn't acquire or bring into the organization. Moving him is an obvious shake up of the core and his value will be high this off-season after an incredible playoff series and a great contract to be on. They could get a haul for him and bring in the type of guys to help them win.

That's likely the only big move made this summer. But to say that it's "rightfully so" that Dubas and Keefe need to be fired couldn't be more ignorant and furthest from the truth.

the guy who got 77% of his points from McDavid despite only playing with him for 46% of the time? ... yeah he's not that good. He's pretty overrated.

I massively disagree with the Keefe statement. His job is to put the players in the best spot to succeed. He didn't do that with Matthews and Marner. He had all the chances in the world to get them away from the Danault line and he didn't. That's on Keefe. I don't think he should be fired, but saying he did everything he could is pretty false.

Also; no chance Matthews, Marner, or Nylander are moved. They'll need to add to them and develop them as playoff players. Not move them.

Who is Keefe supposed to put out against Danault, JT was hurt, Engvall was 1/6 against him, Foligno 2/8, Nylander, 2/4 and Spezza 1/5. Also sometimes you do not control the matchups, if its not an icing teams can make rotations and when its offensive zone draw Toronto naturally went with Matthews and to counter MTL went with Danault. Matthews through games 1-4 had Danaults number in faceoff wins but 5-7 Danault figured him out. And because JT was out Keefe could not change anything as the stats above show nobody was any better against him

You double shift Matthews and Marner and get them away from Danault as much as you can. Put Kerfoot's line against Danault. Danault isn't a scoring threat so there's no worry defensively against the line. But putting Matthews out there against him limits the offence. Keefe double shifted Nylander all series but barely did it to Matthews. That's on Keefe.

Wow, that’s next level apologist...

Dubas acquisitions who did nothing in the playoffs: Simmonds, Thornton, Nash, Hutton, Rittich, and Foligno.

Dubas paid a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, and 6th for his trade deadline rentals.

Eric Staal by himself playing 10 minutes a game outscored that entire group.