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Créé par: Sabreshockey53

Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo

Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2021

Publié: 17 mai 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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BUF

Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]

STL

Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]

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When they trade Eichel it will all be for forwards ans forward prospects, but the defense still needs a lot of improvement. Plus this would mean they don't draft a defenseman with their top 3 pick.

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Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
12	81 500 000 $	46 767 249 $	113 916 $	932 500 $	34 732 751 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 6	Eakin, Cody 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Olofsson, Victor 3 050 000 $3 050 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Thompson, Tage 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C UFA - 2
Bjork, Anders 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Cozens, Dylan 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AG UFA - 2

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Bryson, Jacob 889 166 $889 166 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka 778 333 $778 333 $ (82 500 $$82K) G RFA - 1
	Miller, Colin 3 875 000 $3 875 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Tokarski, Dustin 725 000 $725 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Eichel, Jack 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 5	Girgensons, Zemgus 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 34

Sabresfuturecupwinners

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No it does not. Dunn is a solid addition but Reinhart is far better at this stage. Was top ten goal scorer this year in the entire NHL on the worst team in the league. He will require more than a very solid second pair d man

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 34

NYRxLundqvist

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Wasn’t Dunn on waivers earlier this season?

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 36

NYRxLundqvist

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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners

Reinhart was tied for 11th in goals

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 36

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Yeah good start. Now add

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17 mai 2021 à 13 h 37

Sabreshockey53

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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist

Wasn’t Dunn on waivers earlier this season?

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17 mai 2021 à 13 h 37

GoodIdeaAtTheTime

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It makes sense as a target but St Louis adds. Probably 2 pieces.

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17 mai 2021 à 13 h 38

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value wise It is good for the Blues, but I feel like Reinhart would cost 6.5 million at least. I'd still do it but Buf declines

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 38

Sabresfuturecupwinners

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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist

Reinhart was tied for 11th in goals

10th. Unless someone passed him in Canadian division after the Sabres season ended... Point remains the same, not even close to enough

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 39

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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime

It makes sense as a target but St Louis adds. Probably 2 pieces.

I would not make a deal with STL that uses Dunn as the center piece. I do think he'd be a nice addition, but certainly not in a Reinhart deal that uses him as the main piece.

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17 mai 2021 à 13 h 39

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Quoting: Blues4TheCup

value wise It is good for the Blues, but I feel like Reinhart would cost 6.5 million at least. I'd still do it but Buf declines

Yeah I'm sure it's great "value" for the Blues. You screwed us once on a trade not again

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 40

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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners

10th. Unless someone passed him in Canadian division after the Sabres season ended... Point remains the same, not even close to enough

Lol just messing with you but NHL has him tied 11th with pavelski

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 40

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Add Robert Thomas or Jordan Kyrou to this trade and you might have a chance. One of them should’ve been a Sabre when Ryan O’Reilly was sent to the Blues, but they can be one now.

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 41

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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners

Yeah I'm sure it's great "value" for the Blues. You screwed us once on a trade not again

Vince Dunn is really good though. Berglund, and Sobotka were horrible before buffalo too. And Thompson was pretty bad too.

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 42

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Quoting: kedogs00

I would not make a deal with STL that uses Dunn as the center piece. I do think he'd be a nice addition, but certainly not in a Reinhart deal that uses him as the main piece.

Agreed. I'd prefer an A+ prospect like Kaut as a centerpiece but if you can't get it they could do worse than Dunn and two other good pieces (1st and solid prospect).

17 mai 2021 à 13 h 45

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Quoting: Sabres923

Vince Dunn is really good though. Berglund, and Sobotka were horrible before buffalo too. And Thompson was pretty bad too.

Vince Dunn isn't as good as a lot of people try to make him out to be. Definitely a serviceable option, but if you're moving Reinhart in a hockey trade, you can do better.

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17 mai 2021 à 15 h 16

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Quoting: Tjm220

Add Robert Thomas or Jordan Kyrou to this trade and you might have a chance.

Uhh no. Less than zero chance of that.

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17 mai 2021 à 15 h 32

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Quoting: mokumboi

Uhh no. Less than zero chance of that.

Then Sam Reinhart is not going to St. Louis.

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17 mai 2021 à 15 h 35

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Quoting: Tjm220

Then Sam Reinhart is not going to St. Louis.

I never said he was. But those two players have at least as much trade value as Reinhart, and arguably more in this flat cap era.

18 mai 2021 à 15 h 1

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Quoting: mokumboi

I never said he was. But those two players have at least as much trade value as Reinhart, and arguably more in this flat cap era.

Kyrou had a better season than I was aware of, but Jeff Skinner had about as good a season as Thomas. Reinhart just had a career year in 2/3 of a normal season.

19 mai 2021 à 6 h 24

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Quoting: Tjm220

... but Jeff Skinner had about as good a season as Thomas. Reinhart just had a career year in 2/3 of a normal season.

Haha what? Setting aside that Thomas battled injuries throughout and didn't play his best, he was still easily better to have around than Skinner. Besides, what happened this season is obviously far from the sole measure of value.

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