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Créé par: A__Cas
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2021
Publié: 24 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
21 400 000 $
77 500 000 $
2925 000 $
2860 000 $
42 250 000 $
88 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
1850 000 $
14 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus (750 000 $ retained)
  2. Pilut, Lawrence [Liste de réserve]
  3. Thompson, Tage
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
22 1st top 10 protected
2.
BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
3.
BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
SEA
  1. Eakin, Cody
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 700 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $77 417 249 $113 916 $932 500 $4 082 751 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA

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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 18
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Not sure I want to pay 2 firsts for the right to pay Tkachuk 9 million a year
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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 20
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Calgary wouldn’t be interested at all.
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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 21
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Too much fir Tkachuk

Try Olofsson +
Or Reinhart
24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Not sure I want to pay 2 firsts for the right to pay Tkachuk 9 million a year


I just really like his style and I think he fits what we desparately need up front. Id pay a premium for him.
24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Calgary wouldn’t be interested at all.


Calgary is gunna be rebuilding within the next 2 years so yeah I'm sure they'll listen to offers including a top 3 pick and another early-mid 1st
24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 25
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Calgary is gunna be rebuilding within the next 2 years so yeah I'm sure they'll listen to offers including a top 3 pick and another early-mid 1st


Ironic that you are talking about another team rebuilding, even better that you think the answer is selling their 23 year old top 10 LW
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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 27
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Calgary is gunna be rebuilding within the next 2 years so yeah I'm sure they'll listen to offers including a top 3 pick and another early-mid 1st


Tkachuk is the last guy they’d move while entering a rebuild. Also this draft is weak and that player probably won’t be as good as Tkachuk. Draft picks are also not safe, it’s not as sure as a bonafide NHL player.
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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 29
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Tkachuk is the last guy they’d move while entering a rebuild. Also this draft is weak and that player probably won’t be as good as Tkachuk. Draft picks are also not safe, it’s not as sure as a bonafide NHL player.


To be fair I would probably consider it for Beniers (but I'm also decently high on him) +++
But I also dont see a situation where Buffalo gets Tkachuk and doesnt loose Eichel in the process
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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 31
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The only way I can see Flames trading Tkachuk to Buffalo is if he is part of a package for Eichel
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24 avr. 2021 à 19 h 17
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Quoting: A__Cas
Calgary is gunna be rebuilding within the next 2 years so yeah I'm sure they'll listen to offers including a top 3 pick and another early-mid 1st


That’s painfully dumb. Just signed an older goalie for 6 years, a coach that won’t coach through a rebuild for 3 years and should clear up cap space in expansion. You can’t just say things and hope they’re true cause you said so.
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24 avr. 2021 à 21 h 2
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That’s painfully dumb. Just signed an older goalie for 6 years, a coach that won’t coach through a rebuild for 3 years and should clear up cap space in expansion. You can’t just say things and hope they’re true cause you said so.


Your comment isn't any more enlightening imo. Gaudreau and Monahan gonna both be gone in 2 years, leaving you with weak top 6. Giordano will retire and who will fill the leadership and defensive void? I think Calgary should be looking to rebuild, insofar as trading Gaudreau and Monahan before they walk and hopefully acquiring some talent up front
24 avr. 2021 à 22 h 6
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Quoting: Skyraider112
Your comment isn't any more enlightening imo. Gaudreau and Monahan gonna both be gone in 2 years, leaving you with weak top 6. Giordano will retire and who will fill the leadership and defensive void? I think Calgary should be looking to rebuild, insofar as trading Gaudreau and Monahan before they walk and hopefully acquiring some talent up front


Giordano hopefully goes to Seattle, filled by Hanifin and Valimaki in the left side, simple fix. Tanev leads that group Hanifin grows into it, back end is fine.

There has been talk about signing Gaudreau long term cause his M-NTC clause kicks in this summer, Monahan isn’t even playing top six minutes right now so both those situations you’ve presented are inaccurate. Top six will still be Lindholm, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Backlund, Dube UFA or draft pieces

Sutter said he’s not going to coach a rebuild and Treliving will be working for a new contract, rebuilding doesn’t get you that. What we have established is what you think and what has been said around the Flames organization, I can’t see a reason to entertain the former in any way
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 30
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That is extremely far off, that doesn’t even come close to getting tkachuk
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25 avr. 2021 à 3 h 56
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25 avr. 2021 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: PhatRas
Giordano hopefully goes to Seattle, filled by Hanifin and Valimaki in the left side, simple fix. Tanev leads that group Hanifin grows into it, back end is fine.

There has been talk about signing Gaudreau long term cause his M-NTC clause kicks in this summer, Monahan isn’t even playing top six minutes right now so both those situations you’ve presented are inaccurate. Top six will still be Lindholm, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Backlund, Dube UFA or draft pieces

Sutter said he’s not going to coach a rebuild and Treliving will be working for a new contract, rebuilding doesn’t get you that. What we have established is what you think and what has been said around the Flames organization, I can’t see a reason to entertain the former in any way


If you want to make playoffs and get past the 1st round, you will need more than a coaching change and the signing of a couple UFAs. If you disagree that's fine, but the Flames are not nearly talented enough to win the Stanley Cup and that's the goal no? Trading their only playoff performer is a signal that Calgary may rebuild imo
25 avr. 2021 à 14 h 9
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If you want to make playoffs and get past the 1st round, you will need more than a coaching change and the signing of a couple UFAs. If you disagree that's fine, but the Flames are not nearly talented enough to win the Stanley Cup and that's the goal no? Trading their only playoff performer is a signal that Calgary may rebuild imo


They traded Bennett because they were going to lose him for nothing
25 avr. 2021 à 15 h 41
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They traded Bennett because they were going to lose him for nothing


Hmmm same thing with Gaudreau and Monahan..... That is what I'm saying
25 avr. 2021 à 15 h 45
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Hmmm same thing with Gaudreau and Monahan..... That is what I'm saying


But they won’t because they will sign them.
25 avr. 2021 à 15 h 49
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But they won’t because they will sign them.


Why? They haven't helped you win. They will both want to move on unless you overpay for them.
25 avr. 2021 à 20 h 57
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Why? They haven't helped you win. They will both want to move on unless you overpay for them.


How do you know they want to move on. Both of them have said they love the city and would like to play in calagry thier wholes careers, based on your logic the oilers should trade mcdavid and draistaitl because they haven’t won anything and the avs should trade mackinnon cause they haven’t won anything
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26 avr. 2021 à 20 h 55
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How do you know they want to move on. Both of them have said they love the city and would like to play in calagry thier wholes careers, based on your logic the oilers should trade mcdavid and draistaitl because they haven’t won anything and the avs should trade mackinnon cause they haven’t won anything


Its my opinion that they will likely move on because they have lacked success in Calgary. McDavid and Drai both have made it past the 1st round. Same with MacKinnon. Making the playoffs and getting eliminated in round 1 year after year is worse than not making the playoffs at all imo
27 avr. 2021 à 15 h 6
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Its my opinion that they will likely move on because they have lacked success in Calgary. McDavid and Drai both have made it past the 1st round. Same with MacKinnon. Making the playoffs and getting eliminated in round 1 year after year is worse than not making the playoffs at all imo


Gaudreau and monahan have also made past the first round. And they made the playoffs last year, the flames have had more team success with gaudreau and monahan than the oilers have with mcdavid and draistaitl
27 avr. 2021 à 19 h 5
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Gaudreau and monahan have also made past the first round. And they made the playoffs last year, the flames have had more team success with gaudreau and monahan than the oilers have with mcdavid and draistaitl


In the past 5 seasons, the Flames missed the playoffs twice and were eliminated in the first round the other 3 years... 2014-2015 was the last time they made it past the 1st round. Oilers did it last in 2016-2017. Yes the Oilers have made the postseason with McDavid and Drai only once (the play in doesn't count) but they are going to make it this year (unlike Calgary) so there is little difference. Biggest difference is both Leon and Connor are franchise players, Gaudreau and Monahan are not. Time to move on from them in my opinion and build the team around Lindholm, Tkachuk, Dube, Pellitier, Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin etc.
27 avr. 2021 à 20 h 24
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In the past 5 seasons, the Flames missed the playoffs twice and were eliminated in the first round the other 3 years... 2014-2015 was the last time they made it past the 1st round. Oilers did it last in 2016-2017. Yes the Oilers have made the postseason with McDavid and Drai only once (the play in doesn't count) but they are going to make it this year (unlike Calgary) so there is little difference. Biggest difference is both Leon and Connor are franchise players, Gaudreau and Monahan are not. Time to move on from them in my opinion and build the team around Lindholm, Tkachuk, Dube, Pellitier, Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin etc.


I think the flames will fire treliving, maybe try get a top six rw, lose gio to the expansion draft, and give sutter a training camp and full season to see what he can do. If the flames have another bad season then gaudreau and monahan will be gone, but the team has started to play really good under sutter so I think next year flames will return to the 2018-19 flames, trading monahan or gaudreau right now would be stupid because their at their lowest value and the gm knows that.
 
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