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Another 2C deal

Créé par: Ragsandbluesfan
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2021
Publié: 24 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Picks in the Hertl deal are #16 and #65 btw
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
76 000 000 $
15 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
1874 125 $
1874 125 $
1874 125 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2750 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Like the Grubauer deal

Draft day trade
DET
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Detroit buys out Deangelo
2.
NYR
  1. Hertl, Tomas
Détails additionnels:
No extension
SJS
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
3.
NYR
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
4.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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Logo de VAN
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Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
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Logo de NYR
2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $75 599 801 $0 $7 550 000 $5 900 199 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
737 500 $737 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Rangers de New York
825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1

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24 avr. 2021 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: BStinson
Why that’s their performance till their age 25, which highlights what I said about rushing him to the NHL. It also allows you to fully compare the two goalies otherwise you’re comparing a 23 year old vs 25 year old and the 23 year old still is slightly better.

I’d agree with that Murray is the best comp you’ve provided thus far and our GM has already stated he’s retaining his picks and probably isn’t dumb enough to model a trade after that fiasco which I debated with Pen fans last year about.


Georgiev can't turn into a murray because you can cut ties after 1 year if you want to
24 avr. 2021 à 18 h 2
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Georgiev can't turn into a murray because you can cut ties after 1 year if you want to

So I minimize the cap dump contract but that still doesn’t answer why I’d model a trade after one that hasn’t aged well based on the regressed stats which is just like Geo. Murray had a great run twice with the Pens and then regressed. Geo had a good initial season and has regressed each year since which is odd considering the additions of Trouba + Fox on the backend. The value is close in your ACGM to the Murray trade (50 something overall pick) but doesn’t have the Stanley Cup experience, playoff performances, and slightly lower regular season stats.

Yzerman has repeatedly said he wants to get more picks and would only move them for a legit core piece. We can shine Georgiev only so much but he doesn’t fit that definition of a legit core piece.

All of this is why I’m questioning your thought process on comps and why it must be a second round pick.
24 avr. 2021 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: BStinson
So I minimize the cap dump contract but that still doesn’t answer why I’d model a trade after one that hasn’t aged well based on the regressed stats which is just like Geo. Murray had a great run twice with the Pens and then regressed. Geo had a good initial season and has regressed each year since which is odd considering the additions of Trouba + Fox on the backend. The value is close in your ACGM to the Murray trade (50 something overall pick) but doesn’t have the Stanley Cup experience, playoff performances, and slightly lower regular season stats.

Yzerman has repeatedly said he wants to get more picks and would only move them for a legit core piece. We can shine Georgiev only so much but he doesn’t fit that definition of a legit core piece.

All of this is why I’m questioning your thought process on comps and why it must be a second round pick.


It doesn't HAVE to be a 2nd from the wings, some other team would definitely pay that price for a potential starter which he certainly can be, also you can't have playoff success on a rebuilding team, but hes certainly capable of stealing a game or 2 if needed
24 avr. 2021 à 19 h 33
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It doesn't HAVE to be a 2nd from the wings, some other team would definitely pay that price for a potential starter which he certainly can be, also you can't have playoff success on a rebuilding team, but hes certainly capable of stealing a game or 2 if needed

Post 21 applies to any team. Murray returned pick 50 something and had slightly better regular season stats than Geo and 2 Stanley Cups where he had a good track record. Coupled that with the addition of requiring a buyout of ADA, I’d say @aedoran proposal of VGK 3rd is actually a good offer for the Rags. I personally wouldn’t do it but I can see the rationale behind where he/she is coming from.
24 avr. 2021 à 20 h 27
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A Deangelo buyout really doesn't impact your cap space at all


So then you buy him out
24 avr. 2021 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
So then you buy him out


Sure but I doubt THATS the dealbreaker
25 avr. 2021 à 11 h 2
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It'd have to be a 2nd, even if edmontons


Re-signing Bernier is a preferable option then.
25 avr. 2021 à 16 h 4
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
It doesn't HAVE to be a 2nd from the wings, some other team would definitely pay that price for a potential starter which he certainly can be, also you can't have playoff success on a rebuilding team, but hes certainly capable of stealing a game or 2 if needed


Not with the expansion draft around the corner. Just hold out until you get the best deal possible from the Rangers or let them lose him to the Kracken. That is the difference this year, expansion. No one is going to pay full price for something the Rangers are not going to be able to protect in the draft, same applies to Columbus.
25 avr. 2021 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: AirmanSD
Not with the expansion draft around the corner. Just hold out until you get the best deal possible from the Rangers or let them lose him to the Kracken. That is the difference this year, expansion. No one is going to pay full price for something the Rangers are not going to be able to protect in the draft, same applies to Columbus.


Shesterkin is exempt, so is Merzlikins for that matter
 
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