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Saving Dumba from the Kraken and helping another teams playoff odds

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 9 mars 2021
Publié: 9 mars 2021
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There is a very good chance that with his cap hit at 6 million and now that he is in his prime, Minnesota might have to do something about Matt Dumba before it's too late.

Minnesota has a good team but with the expansion draft on the horizon, you can only protect so many good players.

In this post, I picked the LA Kings as the team to trade Dumba before the deadline.

The LA Kings have a ton of blue clip prospects, they have the cap space to take on Dumba and Minnesota won't be in LA's division after this season.

Also, if Drew Doughty goes down, the Kings can replace Doughty with Dumba on the top pair until Doughty comes back.

Right now according to moneypuck.com, the odds that the Kings make the playoffs is at 30%, but by adding Dumba, it will go over 50% at some point this season.

Easy.

I modelled this trade on the EK65 trade with San Jose.

Dumba produces about the same as what EK65 does today but plays a much more physically and defensively minded type of game.

He is also paid slightly less than when EK65 was with Ottawa and he is still under contract for another 2 seasons after this one.

Unlike EK65, who was traded to San Jose with just one year left on his deal.

I know I'm going to be torn to shreds by fans on both sides, but that's part of the business of being an ACGM and as a GM in real life ;)

I rest my case :)
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For some evidence on the possibility of the Wild exposing Dumba to Seattle, please see this article.

Dumba’s Future With Wild Is Unclear Beyond This Season
February 2, 2021 by Daniel Centeno

https://thehockeywriters.com/dumba-wild-future-uncertain/
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9 mars 2021 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: Tavahews
this trade is bad thats all i can say or capfriendly will cry about it


The only piece that I touched from LA's core group is Jeff Carter.

He's over the age of 35 and is way overpaid.

LA won't be protecting him from expansion, so everything that the Kings are giving to the Wild is expendable.
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 53
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This might be one of the worse trades I’ve ever seen

thats microaggression be careful might get in trouble lol
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 53
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Zona could use him
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This might be one of the worse trades I’ve ever seen


Worst trades have happened.

And why do you care?

This has nothing to do with the leafs.
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 56
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I'm not a fan of EK by any means, even less so now that he's in San Jose. But I can't imagine trying to compare nearly prime EK when he was traded to what Dumba is now, at least not with a straight face. That's terrible.
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thats microaggression be careful might get in trouble lol


A bunch of leafs fans ganging up on a trade idea involving the Wild and the Kings.

Seems like you have nothing better to do :/
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 58
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Dumba is not worth that and, if Vegas is an indicator, he may want to go to the Kraken
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 58
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I'm not a fan of EK by any means, even less so now that he's in LA. But I can't imagine trying to compare nearly prime EK when he was traded to what Dumba is now, at least not with a straight face. That's terrible.


Difference between EK65 when he was traded and Matt Dumba today is this:

EK65 was a pending UFA while Dumba has 2 full years after this.

You probably thought the Sharks fleeced the Sens at the time.
9 mars 2021 à 17 h 59
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Zona could use him


They could but it would cost one of Hayton or Dvorak and I can’t see ARI doing that. I could be wrong but I can’t see it.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Dumba is not worth that and, if Vegas is an indicator, he may want to go to the Kraken


What does Vegas have to do with anything?
9 mars 2021 à 18 h 0
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This might be one of the worse trades I’ve ever seen


You should look at some of the Eichel trades then, this isnt even the worst trade I've seen this week
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Quoting: sensonfire
A bunch of leafs fans ganging up on a trade idea involving the Wild and the Kings.

Seems like you have nothing better to do :/


lol not me i was just making a point because capfriendly gave me an infraction because i used the word throw up lol. then they sent me a msg telling me what i should of said lmao
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What does Vegas have to do with anything?


You said save him from the Kraken, but maybe he would like to go
9 mars 2021 à 18 h 3
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You said save him from the Kraken, but maybe he would like to go


Dumba doesn't have a choice in the matter.

It comes down to him either getting traded before the deadline or Seattle selects him in expansion on their own terms.
9 mars 2021 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: sensonfire
Difference between EK65 when he was traded and Matt Dumba today is this:

EK65 was a pending UFA while Dumba has 2 full years after this.

You probably thought the Sharks fleeced the Sens at the time.


Not a chance. I'm an LA fan and I thought they got robbed blind. I laughed at what they lost, and continued to laugh when they decided to extend EK, causing them to lose players like Pavelski. That being said, Ottawa sold EK at the time when he was THE PREMIER offensive defenseman in the game. Dumba has absolutely nothing in his past to cause value anything like what you're proposing.

Don't get me wrong, Dumba's a good defenseman. I think he's worth a first round pick along with a prospect. But you're not getting one of the Kings premier prospects and three picks all in the top 2 rounds, IN ADDITION to more prospects. Finally, the cap isn't a problem for the Kings, and won't be even up until Carter's contract ends. So adding him into the deal as a "favor" of sorts to get more value from the trade isn't realistic. It's not like LA is cap-strapped like Toronto, needing to find any dollar of cap space.
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Quoting: Oodz
Do you see the irony here. You a sens fan makes a trade with two different teams and asks my why I’m commenting on a non leafs post.

Maybe educate yourself about hockey before posting a trade next time


Somebody who needs to educate himself about hockey might have had the courage to make another ACGM post about his own team since last November.

I wonder who that could be.
9 mars 2021 à 18 h 6
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This is waaaaaayy too much for Matt Dumba. A 2nd and Kaliyev would be fair value, and as a Kings fan, I don't know that I'd want them to even do that.
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Yeah overvalue Dumba much? On what planet does Dumba net 7 pieces?
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Dumba's age and remaining term doesn't fit the Kings timeline and that's an overpay IMO.
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This is waaaaaayy too much for Matt Dumba. A 2nd and Kaliyev would be fair value, and as a Kings fan, I don't know that I'd want them to even do that.


Tell that to the Minnesota fans who are asking for a top 6 centre plus a high first.
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Dumba's age and remaining term doesn't fit the Kings timeline and that's an overpay IMO.


Tell that to the Minnesota fans who are asking for a top 6 centre plus a high first.
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Yeah overvalue Dumba much? On what planet does Dumba net 7 pieces?


Tell that to the Minnesota fans who are asking for a top 6 centre plus a high first.
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Tell that to the Minnesota fans who are asking for a top 6 centre plus a high first.


I'm pretty sure I just did....
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I'm pretty sure I just did....


When?
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Quoting: sensonfire
Dumba doesn't have a choice in the matter.

It comes down to him either getting traded before the deadline or Seattle selects him in expansion on their own terms.


Or the secret third option that no one seems to understand: we protect him.
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