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full rebuild cuz y not

Créé par: Ryancnbb
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2021
Publié: 3 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
flip smith, Compher, eakin, Girgensons, fleury for futures on last years of contracts. maybe buy out skinner at some point?
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
34 500 000 $
23 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 250 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
defensemen, veteran
12 000 000 $
depth, defense
11 000 000 $
Transactions
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BUF
  1. Brisson, Brendan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Fleury, Marc-André
  3. Krebs, Peyton
  4. Smith, Reilly
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
What would you change about this trade?
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ruotsalainen, Arttu
Détails additionnels:
2021 offseason
2.
BUF
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
COL
    hall half retained at deadline
    3.
    BUF
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
    BOS
      Mcnabb at deadline
      4.
      5.
      BUF
      1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
      PHI
      1. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 500 000 $ retained)
      6.
      BUF
      1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
      2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
      TBL
        Montour retained deadline
        7.
        8.
        BUF
        1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
        9.
        BUF
        1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
        TOR
          Staal retained at deadline
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          3 mars 2021 à 18 h 54
          #1
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          Fleury is still a cap jettison though

          Overlooked is that Vegas has been fantastic defensively so far and yes MAF has played well but his true talent rn is still about average (.905 last year)

          Context ftw ✔
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          3 mars 2021 à 18 h 55
          #2
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          Pacioretty Eichel Stone

          o m g

          😳

          Wait I mean

          awesome face
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 1
          #3
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          I can't see Colorado spending a first on a rental Hall. Their top 6 is pretty good.
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 1
          #4
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          Trade Brisson out. That’s theoretically 5 firsts with Krebs, him and Smith (I value him that easily)

          I’d also rather trade Lehner, can’t see VGK letting the original face of the franchise go anywhere after the way he’s played this year
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 17
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          You can keep Hall, let him rot in Buffalo after pulling his BS stunt last offseason

          He had his chance to play for contenders after saying all he wants is to win but then picks a team foe the most money in an effort to pad his stats to try to make more the next offseason

          Sucks to suck hall
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 40
          #6
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          Quoting: VGKNation702
          Trade Brisson out. That’s theoretically 5 firsts with Krebs, him and Smith (I value him that easily)

          I’d also rather trade Lehner, can’t see VGK letting the original face of the franchise go anywhere after the way he’s played this year


          then they have no starter. could take out one piece tho (brisson)
          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 45
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          Quoting: OldNYIfan
          I can't see Colorado spending a first on a rental Hall. Their top 6 is pretty good.


          Yeah and also seemed like they got their deadline deal out of the way early with Saad effectively, as well they're due to ascend after an early PDO lull in ways
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 48
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          Modifié 3 mars 2021 à 19 h 54
          Quoting: VGKNation702
          Trade Brisson out. That’s theoretically 5 firsts with Krebs, him and Smith (I value him that easily)

          I’d also rather trade Lehner, can’t see VGK letting the original face of the franchise go anywhere after the way he’s played this year


          That's really misguided to let Fleury's conceptual value (so to speak) get in the way of their precious cup window if they can replace him with JBernier etc.

          I posted up above about how he's overrated rn

          Franchises need to move beyond this stuff asap

          Edit*

          Patrick Marleau in TO all over again
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 50
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          Eichel, Reinhart, risto trades make no sense
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 51
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          Quoting: coga16
          You can keep Hall, let him rot in Buffalo after pulling his BS stunt last offseason

          He had his chance to play for contenders after saying all he wants is to win but then picks a team foe the most money in an effort to pad his stats to try to make more the next offseason

          Sucks to suck hall


          Harsh but fair

          One of the silliest things I've ever seen honestly

          When he could have padded his stats beside the likes of MacKinnon, Panarin, etc. while contending too
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          3 mars 2021 à 19 h 54
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          Quoting: Sabres_Insider
          Eichel, Reinhart, risto trades make no sense


          "Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln; how was the show?"
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          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 0
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          Quoting: Radu47
          Harsh but fair

          One of the silliest things I've ever seen honestly

          When he could have padded his stats beside the likes of MacKinnon, Panarin, etc. while contending too


          It is harsh but this is the bed he made now he has to lie in it, the guy wants to be paid like a top guy but every team he has gone to, he doesn’t do anything to put them over the top and they all fail,

          Time to realize he needs to be the 3rd or 4th fiddle on a team and accept a secondary role bc he’s not winning trying to be one of a teams top guys and high paid player
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          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 7
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          Quoting: coga16
          You can keep Hall, let him rot in Buffalo after pulling his BS stunt last offseason

          He had his chance to play for contenders after saying all he wants is to win but then picks a team foe the most money in an effort to pad his stats to try to make more the next offseason

          Sucks to suck hall


          I agree, but a $4m Hall for 1 playoff run and jettisoning the rest of Compher's term almost makes me like losing the 1st smile
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          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 28
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          Big no from Dallas, Gurianov is untouchable.
          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 30
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          Quoting: Radu47
          That's really misguided to let Fleury's conceptual value (so to speak) get in the way of their precious cup window if they can replace him with JBernier etc.

          I posted up above about how he's overrated rn

          Franchises need to move beyond this stuff asap

          Edit*

          Patrick Marleau in TO all over again


          We are the team that paid Reaves more money than Ny to get him to come back lol
          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 31
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          For the Stars I'd do that if you change Gurianov to Hintz.
          3 mars 2021 à 20 h 36
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          Quoting: AslanRH
          I agree, but a $4m Hall for 1 playoff run and jettisoning the rest of Compher's term almost makes me like losing the 1st smile


          Nah you can move on from compher if they want to without giving up a 1st

          Hall is one of the last guys I would want the avs to target as a rental
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          3 mars 2021 à 21 h 31
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          Quoting: coga16
          Nah you can move on from compher if they want to without giving up a 1st

          Hall is one of the last guys I would want the avs to target as a rental


          True, and I was speaking in jest.
          but my many years of disliking Compher have taken their toll.
          3 mars 2021 à 22 h 49
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          Quoting: WallStreet83
          For the Stars I'd do that if you change Gurianov to Hintz.


          I think Hintz Is better
          4 mars 2021 à 2 h 2
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          I don’t love Vegas as a spot for Eichel
          Fleury & Smith are good players, but neither fit the timeline for another rebuild that we’ll be doing if we move Jack

          Kings & Rangers seem like 2 teams with LOTS of young talent that would want him
          Vegas just doesn’t have the pieces they do
          4 mars 2021 à 8 h 42
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          Quoting: Jdfitz77
          I don’t love Vegas as a spot for Eichel
          Fleury & Smith are good players, but neither fit the timeline for another rebuild that we’ll be doing if we move Jack

          Kings & Rangers seem like 2 teams with LOTS of young talent that would want him
          Vegas just doesn’t have the pieces they do


          vegas has the pieces but they would need to add Fleury or fleury and smith/marchessault/tuch to make cap work

          Fleury and smith aren't even bad and can be flipped fore more futures if they want anyways
          4 mars 2021 à 9 h 42
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          no way dallas does that.
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          4 mars 2021 à 16 h 28
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          Quoting: Ryancnbb
          vegas has the pieces but they would need to add Fleury or fleury and smith/marchessault/tuch to make cap work

          Fleury and smith aren't even bad and can be flipped fore more futures if they want anyways


          Taking back Cap is no biggie
          But u can’t really count that as an asset for Eichel if that’s the case then
          4 mars 2021 à 17 h 36
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          Quoting: Jdfitz77
          Taking back Cap is no biggie
          But u can’t really count that as an asset for Eichel if that’s the case then


          im counting it a bit as an asset since goaltending Is weak for them and a good winger doesn't hurt
          4 mars 2021 à 17 h 43
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          Quoting: Ryancnbb
          im counting it a bit as an asset since goaltending Is weak for them and a good winger doesn't hurt


          Maybe it counts a little,
          but neither of those players would be a factor in beating out other offers
          Again, we’d be starting a rebuild again
          So 1 year of Fleury just doesn’t mean anything
          Same with Smith
          The only value they’d have to us is what we could turn around & trade them for- which is an unknown
           
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