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Assuming Boston is on Hertls list of 3 teams

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Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 19 févr. 2021
Publié: 19 févr. 2021
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I'm also assuming that from GM Doug Wilson's perspective, compromising with Hertl on extension talks is like trying to compromise with people that use capfriendly.

People like you.

Who are reading this description, looking at the trade scenario and dropping a comment that offers no constructive solutions on how to make a fair trade work between two teams.

I'm assuming Hertl is going to walk out on the Sharks next year.

Could Hertl be the player that puts Boston over the top and delivers its first stanley cup in over a decade?

This trade is modelled off of the Matt Duchene trade from 2017.

I also don't touch any core pieces to the Bruins roster, much like the 2017 Duchene trade.

As a distinguished ACGM, do you have the courage to bring a Stanley Cup to Boston?

Or to even increase the cup odds for the Bruins?

Then please consider this trade.

I'll see you in the comments :D

P.S. If the second line with Hertl works out okay, it could be known as the "Czeching" line lol.
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  1. Hertl, Tomas
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For the explanation as to why Boston might be on Hertl's 3 team trade list, please see my ACGM post "Guessing What's In Everybody's No-Trade Clauses Part 2 out of 3".
Posted on February 16th.
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  1. Beecher, John
  2. Lohrei, Mason
  3. Moore, John
  4. Studnicka, Jack
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
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1st round pick is conditional.

Condition: If pick ends up in the top ten, the Bruins have the option to keep the 2021 1st round pick and send San Jose their 2022 1st round pick instead.
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19 févr. 2021 à 23 h 39
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Ya, not sure you know who hertl is, but this ain’t fair. Take out all the picks and i don’t think the bruins have any interest in this.

Also hasn’t been over a decade since the bruins won the cup.
19 févr. 2021 à 23 h 50
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Ya, not sure you know who hertl is, but this ain’t fair. Take out all the picks and i don’t think the bruins have any interest in this.

Also hasn’t been over a decade since the bruins won the cup.


A few points that need mentioning:

I don't think you know who Hertl is either.

There's no such thing as a "fair" trade.

I think you meant to say, "Take out all the picks and I do think the Bruins have interest in this".

Last cup win was 2011. Not over a decade but it's been exactly 10 years. Whatever.

I don't think you've ever seen a Bruins ACGM scenario from somebody not a Bruins fan that you approved of lol.
19 févr. 2021 à 23 h 53
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Where it is true that many fanbases greatly underrate Hertl, sharks fans also highly overrate him on this website - especially his trade value. This package is far too much for Tomas.
19 févr. 2021 à 23 h 56
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Where it is true that many fanbases greatly underrate Hertl, sharks fans also highly overrate him on this website - especially his trade value. This package is far too much for Tomas.


I'm not a Sharks fan. I'm just offering the 2017 Duchene trade equivalent to a Tomas Hertl trade and seeing if the rabid Bruins fanbase bites.

I'm really happy that my Sens fleeced the Sharks with the EK65 trade, so that's why I post as a Sharks ACGM every now and then lol.
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19 févr. 2021 à 23 h 59
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Honestly not a lot of complaints here from me. Not super high on Trading Hertl to Boston just because there isn't a lot going on in terms of legit blue chip prospects or potential tanking. Also John Moore's contract is bleh. But other than that, you've actually given the Sharks prospects and picks of legitimate value so I can't be mad. Coming from a Bruins perspective this is actually probably too much to give up, but you definitely wouldn't have too much competition from other teams if this is what you're offering.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 1
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Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
Honestly not a lot of complaints here from me. Not super high on Trading Hertl to Boston just because there isn't a lot going on in terms of legit blue chip prospects or potential tanking. Also John Moore's contract is bleh. But other than that, you've actually given the Sharks prospects and picks of legitimate value so I can't be mad. Coming from a Bruins perspective this is actually probably too much to give up, but you definitely wouldn't have too much competition from other teams if this is what you're offering.


That's probably the exact logic Joe Sakic used to trade Duchene to Ottawa in 2017 lol.
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 6
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Quoting: benkel
A few points that need mentioning:

I don't think you know who Hertl is either.

There's no such thing as a "fair" trade.

I think you meant to say, "Take out all the picks and I do think the Bruins have interest in this".

Last cup win was 2011. Not over a decade but it's been exactly 10 years. Whatever.

I don't think you've ever seen a Bruins ACGM scenario from somebody not a Bruins fan that you approved of lol.


Ya, in like July.

I’ve approved of plenty. But i don’t approve of stupid ones. The bruins aren’t trading their top prospect, all the picks, and probably the third best prospect for a year and a half of hertl. That’s just absurdity. You’re acting like the guys Gretzky.
Number of seasons Hertl has cracked 50 points: 1. ONE!!! A first, second, third, top prospect+ is ridiculous for that.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 6
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Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
Honestly not a lot of complaints here from me. Not super high on Trading Hertl to Boston just because there isn't a lot going on in terms of legit blue chip prospects or potential tanking. Also John Moore's contract is bleh. But other than that, you've actually given the Sharks prospects and picks of legitimate value so I can't be mad. Coming from a Bruins perspective this is actually probably too much to give up, but you definitely wouldn't have too much competition from other teams if this is what you're offering.

Studnicka is pretty freaking good.
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 9
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Studnicka is pretty freaking good.


Ok then wink
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 11
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Ya, in like July.

I’ve approved of plenty. But i don’t approve of stupid ones. The bruins aren’t trading their top prospect, all the picks, and probably the third best prospect for a year and a half of hertl. That’s just absurdity. You’re acting like the guys Gretzky.
Number of seasons Hertl has cracked 50 points: 1. ONE!!! A first, second, third, top prospect+ is ridiculous for that.


Then, in that case, you don't have the courage to bring a Stanley Cup to Boston as Bruins ACGM.

Poor you!
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 15
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Then, in that case, you don't have the courage to bring a Stanley Cup to Boston as Bruins ACGM.

Poor you!


Or just go get Taylor hall, who is better, will be far cheaper than that, and not cause any issues in expansion. Done. Easy.

Hertl is a 1st round pick. That’s it.
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 18
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Ya, not sure you know who hertl is, but this ain’t fair. Take out all the picks and i don’t think the bruins have any interest in this.

Also hasn’t been over a decade since the bruins won the cup.


YEAH! Right now it is just A decade. In about 5 months, it will be OVER a decade. Silly OP......
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 19
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Studnicka is pretty freaking good.


Interesting. I don't follow the Bruins very much so I'm haven't kept track of Studnicka very much but all I'm saying is that they aren't Caufield, Newhook, Krebs etc. type prospect which would make SJ pretty much immediately jump on that trade. Still solid, but it's still more quantity > quality
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 19
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Or just go get Taylor hall, who is better, will be far cheaper than that, and not cause any issues in expansion. Done. Easy.

Hertl is a 1st round pick. That’s it.


He's much more than "a 1st round pick" my guy. He'll cost much more than that.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 20
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Or just go get Taylor hall, who is better, will be far cheaper than that, and not cause any issues in expansion. Done. Easy.

Hertl is a 1st round pick. That’s it.


Taylor Hall is not getting traded within the division and he has a NMC.

Boo!!!

Hertl gets only a 1st round pick when he has a year left after this one at under 6 million per.

Gotcha!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner! LOL
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 20
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Interesting. I don't follow the Bruins very much so I'm haven't kept track of Studnicka very much but all I'm saying is that they aren't prospects like Caufield, Newhook, Krebs etc. type prospect which would make SJ pretty much immediately jump on that trade. Still solid, but it's still more quantity > quality


Whether it’s correct for him to do so is up for debate, but Sweeney flatly refused to even discuss moving studnicka for mark stone. He was in the bruins lineup before injury. Good NHL ready player.

Regardless, hertl just isn’t that good to talk about this kind of return.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 21
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Taylor Hall is not getting traded within the division and he has a NMC.

Boo!!!

Hertl gets only a 1st round pick when he has a year left after this one at under 6 million per.

Gotcha!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner! LOL


He’s achieved 50 points ONCE. He’s not that good.
20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 22
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Taylor Hall is not getting traded within the division and he has a NMC.

Boo!!!

Hertl gets only a 1st round pick when he has a year left after this one at under 6 million per.

Gotcha!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner! LOL


Hertl would still more than just a 1st as a rental, this guy is a Bruins fan so automatically, he knows more than everyone else.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 23
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He’s achieved 50 points ONCE. He’s not that good.


Roger that!

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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 25
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Roger that!

Bcarlo25, rabid Bruins fan and ACGM of the Year, reporting for duty!


Since entering the league he’s 144th in points per game. Pathetic.
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Roger that!

Bcarlo25, rabid Bruins fan and ACGM of the Year, reporting for duty!


He had 74 points in 77 games in 18-19, 36 points in 48 games in 19-20, and has 10 points in 15 games right now. He is clueless.
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Since entering the league he’s 144th in points per game. Pathetic.


He's been injured a lot dummy
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Whether it’s correct for him to do so is up for debate, but Sweeney flatly refused to even discuss moving studnicka for mark stone. He was in the bruins lineup before injury. Good NHL ready player.

Regardless, hertl just isn’t that good to talk about this kind of return.


Okay that's fine Sweeney can do what he pleases. If he's that high on Studnicka it's no problem but I have a hard time believing that passing up Stone just to keep Studnicka was a smart move if that was the case. The same is true for Hertl but to a lesser extent. I get that this trade is not great for the Bruins holistically (picks and prospects included) but if the whole thing swings on Studnicka that's just a bit silly to be frank.
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20 févr. 2021 à 0 h 33
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Since entering the league he’s 144th in points per game. Pathetic.


You can't stop posting, can you?

Triggered.

Here's what I'll do:

This will be my last comment and tomorrow, I'll head on over to Sharks ACGM page, post the same thing and get showered with praise.

To stop you from barging in and invading our fun, I'll post with the title "NO BRUINS FANS ALLOWED!!!"

I'll even like your last comment to make you feel better.

Deal?

Great! Thanks for doing business with us! LOL
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
He had 74 points in 77 games in 18-19, 36 points in 48 games in 19-20, and has 10 points in 15 games right now. He is clueless.


Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
He's been injured a lot dummy


When you have a Kings fan saying stuff like this you know something's not right lol. All of this is correct though.
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