Speaking of Reichel though, he's been doing really good for Eisbären Berlin and has been named 1st line center, But he can also play wing and I'd Imagine he'll start as 3rd line center or Top 6 Wing when he comes into the hawks in a few years. but my condition wouldn't obviously happen but I think the conditions would be fair if he does hypothetically thrives with another team. But if he does get traded I hope for another prospect or a pick with conditions

You clearly came in here and said I'm calling people dumb....I'm not and of course you can't find the quote saying that. You then are basically calling me dumb or ignorant when I brought up players on the wrong hand without you understanding the context of the discussion....you missed that, and tried to flame me twice....again be better.

I was talking about people that don't know the Hawks system and prospects talking to Hawks fans trying to educate them is lack of awareness and knowledge but that is not uncommon on here...but 100% I absolutely did say that and it's also 100% true. Some users are known for a complete lack of objectivity, this is a typical case and instead turn around and say "well your entire defense sucks and Dermott would be your #1"....that is a complete lack of awareness and knowledge.

One of your brotheran said Dermott can play both sides when challenged saying the Hawks have plenty of players/prospects on the left, I expanded showing the right is even deeper. Point being, there is no space on either side.

Go ask Carolina and Islander fans if they think Dermott is better then De Haan. It's a fact, Leaf AGMs commonly include Dermott and other team fans constantly say Leafs fans are overvaluing him. I watch the Hawks number 1, Leafs number 2, Vegas/Avs tied for 3. Dermott is not better then De Haan for a guy that watches plenty of both. Dermott is solid 3rd liner (maybe 2nd on a shallow team), but De Haan is a solid 2nd liner all day on more then half the teams in the league. Dermott had a good game last night but let's not blow out of proportion who he is; a 24 year old player who so far hasn't proven he's a fulltime NHL player...and I think he's ready this season but nothing more then a solid 3rd line pairing.

I didnt try to flame you , I pointed out how you were acting high and mighty and then you bungled your reply because you were so excited to strike back at a Leafs fan you disagreed with.
You can twist it as much as you want, but you did in fact call both Mitchell and Murphy LHD, intentionally or not.
If you want people to talk more respectfully towards you like you insist I do, then you really gotta start doing it to others and stop playing the victim card at the slightest pushback.
And as far as Dermott goes, he has shown that he is capable of being a solid 2nd pairing defender who is in fact capable of playing both sides (while being significantly stronger on the left), and it's not just one game, it is actually a couple seasons, but he's been pushed down the depth chart by Muzzin and Rielly. De Haan hasnt been good for like 2.5 seasons and is trending downwards, i dont really care what people who watched him when he was good and still think he is good thinks. .
I never once said the Hawks would do it, just that anyone pretending Alex Nylander has more value than him is kidding themselves.

Then put the players on LTIR, although it's iffy if Toews and Seabrook can be LTIR for the rest of their long term contracts. Hardly ever, a player with millions to be paid. Yes, players have medical conditions that make them unfit to play and then they collect their salaries. But I do have understanding of the three Hawks who are on LTIR, and two them are very iffy if it's career ending on LTIR.

Absolutely silly to say, that Dermot hasn't proven himself to be a full time NHLer. Previous two seasons, 17 minutes a game.

Imma clear this situation, so the rest of us can move on.
"Moving to Chicago he's easily their best left handed d-man and arguably their best d-man" Ryminister_27 said, I think he also said Dermott can play LD/RD in another agm not positive don't take my word on that

I believe ChiHawk was trying to say that Dermott will not be Better than Keith, Mitchell, Beaudin, Boqvist, Murphy, De Haan on what ever side Dermott plays for Chicago and there is no need for him because Dermott will not get much ice time for Chicago.

That's a fair point, Chicago doesn't have room for him
You have a fair point that Toronto isn't in a situation to trade Dermott for Nylander
So let's Agree to Disagree, and move on with our f*cking lives

I may be verbose but I’m factual and objective and non emotional or warm and fuzzy (I know that) but rarely so I insult someone with intent. For a fan of one team not to understand another teams depth, especially prospect depth, is totally normal and I simply clarified it as it is clear that individual doesn’t understand. Nowhere did I insult, it was simply a direct verbose response. While AI love the Hawks and hockey, I don’t care about hockey that much to get overly emotional to the point that there is a need to “attack” or “flame” with intent strangers on the internet which is exactly how you responded to me that initiated this interaction and why I said be better because historically I know you are.

Of course I know that Mitchell and Murphy are right handed D men. You know, or should know, I’m probably one of the top 3 biggest Hawks fans on here and not only can tell you every player, their strengths and weakness, but also pretty much every prospect in the system; I’m sure you can do the same for the Leafs so suggesting otherwise is a tired excuse for trying to insult...you know I know better, that’s like me saying you didn’t know Marner plays on the RW...silly. Like I said, I was addressing an earlier Leafs fans comment about Dermott playing both sides (you again reiterated here) and demonstrating he’s still be 6th or 7th behind Mitchell, Boqvist, Murphy, Keith, Beaudin, De Haan, competing with Zadarov for ice time. Further, in the very near future Carlsson, Kalynuk, Regula and maybe even Vlassic (who I’m personally not that high on) could bump him even lower. Dermott isn’t better or has more upside then the first six players I mentioned though, and We don’t have to agree on De Haan, but the last 2.5 years he’s had a ton of injuries and 3 surgeries but since being back (playoffs last year...pretty sure Dermott didn’t play all the games for the Leafs) De Haan is looking like his old self as a shut down, net front defender that’s pretty good at clearing the zone. I’m also not a big De Haan fan which tells you what I think of Dermott...nothing more then a #4. Again, objectively speaking maybe because of De Haan’a age and injury history Dermott has slightly more value but to say he’s hands down better, well we can agree to disagree.

Again, the trade makes no sense for the Hawks. Nylander, is more valuable then Dermott to the Hawks. On paper maybe it’s probably close but most trades address needs and Hawks don’t have the need for another bottom 3 defender.

Have a good night; cheers

Yet the previous two seasons Dermott hasn’t played full time on a porous Leafs defense including injury ridden at times.

If the players are battling medical situations that lead them to be in LITR then salary doesn’t matter. If they are “retiring” then what you said is true but they aren’t going to retire if they aren’t playing to your point, it will be for medical reasons and as such on LITT

Well said but think someone else mention about dermott playing both sides as I don’t see what that user posts. Cheers

The fact that Dermot was saddled with the two poor partners in the previous two seasons and last year was even plus player playing 17 minutes sorta proves he is an NHLer. Not saying the Hawks should make the trade, but it's fantasy to say Dermot isn't an NHL competent Dman