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Holy moly, I'm staying out of this.
All sorts of wrong in the comments of this one guys. Sorry. Just a couple notes
A "cap dump" doesn't mean I give you a worthless piece so now I can trade with you. It means in order for me to trade with you, I need you to take something off my hands that is worthless. In exchange for doing this, I'll give you more value because your not only giving me a good player but your taking back a player with salary also. Thus making it like we're just swapping players and salaries. (DD for Hanzal)
A DD trade to Arizona for Hanzal absolutely makes sense. But MTL has to give Arizona extra picks/prospects/value etc in order for it to make sense for them. Otherwise there will be a team that wants Hanzal and will give them only prospects and picks in return for him. with out any salary going back. Or a cheap good NHL regular if that is what they prefer. So if lets say they wanted Lehkonen for Hanzal. We'd ask them to take DD as well and if they do so, we'll give them a good draft pick also. Like a 2nd rounder. Otherwise MTL can't afford Hanzal so if Arizona really wanted Lehkonen, they'd have to retain salary on Hanzal and we'd give them an extra draft pick as compenation for that instead.
Also, a lot of people batter off trades for pending UFA's involving a ton of picks and prospects like that is the apparent value they have....... If you want to get an better idea, look for previous trades at the deadline where a player of equal significance was traded for. For example: Andrew Ladd last year garnered basically a late 1st rounder, a prospect in Marko Dano and a conditional pick which they didn't end up getting anyway. Also WPG retained 36% of his salary on top of that. Compare Hanzal and Ladd and most would agree Ladd is the more valuable player (At that time). Thus Hanzal is more than likely to get less of a return than that. That's how teams judge value and what it would cost. Its the same way players use other players with similar stats for getting pay raises. "This player scored the same as me so I should be worth what he got." Same principle in trading. Obviously the longer time has passed since that trade, the terms change but generally it holds true. There are trades that make precedence but those are quite rare and tend to have one team getting screwed.