look it up and let me know

Marchand is significantly older and doesn't have very many significant productive years left. McDavid is just entering his prime and is a generational talent. Has potential to produce into his 40s. The Bruins get the better players for the majority of his career. That wins the trade for the Bruins right there.

Agreed

100%
people are treating this like they're all the same age

I don't have to because I already know how the answer impacts and deminishes your argument

Without those picks the Oilers lose another blockbuster and enter another decade of darkness. And even then there is no guarantee those picks hit and they get anything good out of them. Even with those picks Boston wins this, you just don't trade generational players.

That’s not a good argument. They are both point per game players without each other. You can say the same thing with any line mates, mcdaid and draisaitl etc. Marchand and pasta are worth more now and probably for the next 2-3 years. Boston is not adding 3 firsts to get worse when they’re trying to win a cup.

Boston's window is closing fast. And won't open again for a long time. Trading for McDavid opens it back up a hell of a lot sooner. Also no you can't say the same thing. If anything they rely on each other to score. Whereas McDavid and Dria drive their own lines. McDavid gets over 100 points without a nother elite forward on his wings consistently. Drai had Nuge and a rookie. Boston wins this trade in the long run. They get the better player for a significant amount of time those picks, could end up being nothing. You don't trade generational players. Period.

So you're not sure how many goals they each assisted on for each other, but you already know how the answer impacts the arguments....

WOW!

I already know they rely on eachother to score.. how old are you? Aha

Let's resort to child like behaviour to win an argument aha

Do you know that over the last 2 years that McDavid & Drai have factored into roughly 42% of each other points?

Do you know that over the last 2 years that Pasta and Marchand have factored into roughly 39% of each other points?

I am also not sure your evaluations are fair
Marchand last three:
217gp 98g 174 a 272pts (top 10 in selke as a winger) Too lazy to look but I assume the only other winger on that list is Stone or Danault, but I thikn He is more of a C
Pastrnak last three:
218 gp 121g 135a 256pts
McDavid last thee:
224gp 116g 205a 321pts

So 60% not 50. I guess you got me there. Lol.

.93ppg
.98ppg
1.23ppg
1.36ppg

McDavid:
1.22ppg
1.32ppg
1.49ppg
1.52ppg

Marchand 1.19ppg over last four.

1.19+1.36= 2.45ppg
Vs
1.52ppg

same price/cap hit.

McDavid is insane. Pastrnak and Marchand are too.

no, it. doesnt. how many were with RNH or Draisaitl?

@JmoneyTalk

uh-oh

Exactly what I brought up. But I got hit with the classic “draisaitl drives his own line”.

McAvoy 23
Carlo 23
pastrnak 23
debrusk 24
kase 24


Bergeron has at least 2years left at peak. Marchand 4

studnicka, Vaak, Beecher, swayman coming.

their window is not closing. 1c is a concern.
most teams have that problem (in 2 years). or a true #1 D (edmontons problem)

they also have Rask who seemingly only wants to play in Boston and has two top 7 vezina finishes in last 3, so he presumably has a few more good ones. At least more than Mike Smith or Koskinen.

Guess who is an UFA at the end of this year when the Bruins have Backes, Rask (@&7) and Krejci coming off the books? I wonder if they could afford Barkov who I can almost guarantee won't resign in FLA

Also throw Coyle, Bjork, & smith in there as solid but not necessarily part of a "core"

What makes you think he can produce into his 40's? That is bold. he really doesn't have the body of a Jagr or Thornton. He will break down. especially as he slows down - which is inevitable. He is closer in size to Gretzky who retired at 38

Also ignoring the last there have been Marchands best. He was a late bloomer, but has shown Zero signs of regression. Pastrnak is also 23 and just won Richard Trophy and his progression is trending better than McDavid (not that he will be better, but his progression). McDavid has been top 3 in NHL since day 1. Pastrnak was good, but now a top 5-10 player in the league.

I get the horse for ponies thing, but Marchand and Pastrnak are by no means ponies.

The trade is only for McDavid until he’s 28 anyway not until he retires. He will be a ufa and can sign anywhere ... like his hometown team :-)

We're still arguing over this 5 hours and 42 posts later
lol

Lmao I didn’t even realize I just get the notification and respond. I think this is one of those agree to disagree moments.

Where'd you go? I see you've posted since, but you seem to be avoiding this one.

Looking at the last 6 months will give you a better picture than when the Oilers had no depth and McDavid and Draisaitl played on the same line genius

So show me those numbers then lets see it.

Nah
Just take my word for it

I said hes the best player in the world earlier, but what's that got to do with this discussion?

His worth

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